We had much the same conversation about the all home brigade yesterday Frank but in our club with us all being on ETS ye have to tell the truth or look like a dafty but some people still cannae tell the truth about their returns from the race or their times Personally i thought i would really struggle yesterday in that wind with most of my doos going for their 1st race and was well pleased to get up to 14 from 18 before 5pm yesterday but not had another feather since and still missing 4 yet