Maybe some are just lucky Ian...Personally as Lanarkshire Lad will tell you also we have had great training as we have been training in a group of up to 2000 birds at times safety in numbers but they still get hit as it happened to us on wednesday as some had pigeons missing theat came the next day including myself i got my last 1 on thursday morning minus most of it's tail...Maybe most of the convoys are attacked on route at some point but get lucky like my doo on wednesday and to say not every fancier has bother how can you make a statement like that as we dont know what happen sto them on route either from training or on a saturday from the race??? Alan