i agree with you stuart i thought the birds had a high chance of clashing yesterday the lib times a bit to close for comfort plus we got another erratic race but most of the birds turned up later so who knows what holding the birds up there are 20 mins between some club winners in the west sect of lan fed yesterday which should never happen at a 180 mls is it hawks, clashing, something in the atmosphere who knows . if the racing keeps up the way its going we wont have a sport in 10 years .its about time this sport started helping its self because nobody is going to come and fix it for us.