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enlighten me bob what is the full story as you seem to be well informed ?

maybe its the mis information you get fed perhaps if you asked the right people the right questions you would be better informed

im not here for finacial gain and would not take a paid post :D :D

if you believe this this then i must have to say goodbye to the site myself , you have clearly got friends that feed mis information just to wind you up , p.s im not going any day soon

well the forum rules quite clearly state all moderation is final and we all agreed to the same rules when we joined , so you have actualy agreed to this , and as stated theres more than one site and each moderates differently , moderation is unbiased hence Mavericks disrespectfull post would have already have been moved , the personal view of a moderator are that of the rules we folloow as a moderator , but we are also members so in fact wear two hats one for moderating within the criteria set out by Richard and the forum rules as a member , QUOTE FROM BOB 'The personal view of the moderator should not influence the decision, which often appears to be the case ' as you can se thats clearly not the case just your view . QUOTE FROM BOB 'You and other moderators are NOT above the rules of the site and have made many mistakes yourself in the past' have to agree we have to stick to the rules and arent above them but were selected for our unbiased views rather than a buddy system of moderation , QUOTE FROM BOB 'WHY can one member criticise another and be allowed to do so, and yet when Moderators are asked pertinent questions or criticised the thread gets locked or removed'. A simple question Mark , as you say we have to be impartial not all posts can be read at the same time and moderators arent forced to read every thread for instance i dont like sports so rarely check them unless im asked to do so , so the best moderators are yourselves ensure posts arent offending and they'll stay on report posts that are offending and they'll be looked into , QUOTE FROM BOB 'and yet when Moderators are asked pertinent questions or criticised the thread gets locked or removed' that is down to the discresion of the moderator and most times giving reasons can create more problems rather resolve any , but you are quite entitled to ask why via a pm

well the forum rules quite clearly state all moderation is final and we all agreed to the same rules when we joined

the problem lies there bob for people to attack moderators and if they followed the code of conduct there would be no need to remove / lock threads , just because a thread is locked or removed doesnt mean anyone person is responsible it maybe more than one if its felt that one person has clearly over stepped the mark then they will be issued as a warning , if indeed they wish to ask why thread locked they can ask why and if not in agreement with the reason they can take it up with Richard

these were removed due to the racial nature or the likelyhood of people been insulted this is a pigeon site after all not a football site as i have no intrest in other sports i only read one comment that was racial but another moderator removed and i respected there decision

im sure there is space on the sites banner and between where it says how many pms you have to have a 'Pigeon Basics Fund Total ££££'s' and have it clickable to get an application form

so calling me a wannabe and an ars e wipe is not disrespectfull ? , then i suggest you look at the meaning of the word 'disrespectfull' and then you will clearly see that your post is just that , as any member of the site should be able to know the details of the Pigeon Basics Fund that much i agree and should be more visable , it's Richards site and he runs it as he see's fit and is moderated according to the sites rules , most posts like that of Pecked hen get taken out of contexed and she even told me herself she didnt see the need for the kangaroo court and is more than happy how im dealing with it , if she is not im equaly sure she show her disaproval , so on one hand i agree with you whole heartedly on the other the disrespectfull way you deal with people wont bully people into your way of thinking quite the opposite you get peoples backs up and loose any credabilty you have as a honest respectfull member

Maverick yet again your post is disrespectfull , i have not disrespected you by calling you any names any positive ground you have tried to gain has been sadly lost by your last post , Richard is mature enough to deal with things himself but when certain members want answers there and then its quite simply not possible when there not available as they were away , as for a wannabe looking after him im more than sure intellectually he is more than capable of looking after his own issues , then honest disrespectfull member maverick use the pm facility and contact him as its between you and him and im sure he will furnish you the answers you require , go take a long look in the mirror

Maverick , the pigeon fund is that for Webmaster to deal with and ill see personaly that ill get some answers from him , post that are likely to get out of hand are locked with an aim to keep the site moving along nicely in a respectfull manner , Richard was away for the weekend and also has a life off Pigeon Basics , as i said previously to you via pm if you have any questions you can ask Richard aka webmaster yourself via pm , as for admin theres only Webmaster as 'THEFIFER' felt he had enough of the distruptive element the site had and needed a break , as it now has settled down he is willing to take his post back which i've urged Richard to do as he also is a trustie of the Pigeon Basics fund but now he doesnt have access to that any longer , with the site owners having outside intrests ( a life ) they are not always available 24 / 7 like some would think they should , they try to deal with many pm's and request as soon as humanly possible , i also have talked with peckedhen and told her i will personly see that her friend is helped , which she was happy with , which is above and beyond my expectations of a global moderator

also read same article has to be a plus for deep litter

have you joined a club Kev ?

have to agee with you both

the oils can go rancid which could be a problem you need to use it once opened

im afraid the maple crop failed due to black root , there was green peas at back end but when i rung up they had all gone lesson learned for next year going to get a few stacked up , i had got two bags from buctons worse maples i have ever bought aload of black squashed uns in them not dried or stored properly , i got two bags of Johnstones and Jeffs lovely clean maples best i've seen for many years £11.95 for 25kg i believe theres some near Durham

im not so keen on the white peas or yellow peas green seem to be king

Dave Page was responsible for 5 U.N.C winners 2007

i'd be feeding green peas but none to be had will buy a load back end of next season

Contains oil of black pepper, piperine and capsaicin , does that season them before been eat by hawk

i put them through trap as soon as i move them and continue everyday for a week then let them let themselves out after

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duh should of read the top ;D ;D ;D ;D

what breed are they staf van reets ?