fletch Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 give the guy a chance he said that he may make mistakes but is trying his best and i think he has tryed to clarify it up, surely if he not on line he cant answer back so give him a chance to see it before the negative comments, any way chap nice birds if i was buying it would be number 13 looks good to me, best of luck with sale and going to a good cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCHEQHEN Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 where about in the UNC does Borrows race ie fed I think its Barron & son - Wansbeck Fed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCHEQHEN Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 I think its Barron & son - Wansbeck Fed But I could be wrong (evil) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 i am asking because i have never heard that name before fletchlivesi have never knocked him have i so get it straight before you judge anyone redcheqhen thanks for the info just seems strange you buy and cant remember names lose all peds but it wont bother me as i wont be buying i will leave that to fletch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fletch Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 i aint knocked you and i aint judged you, i dont know you so i couldnt possibly judge you, i was only saying give the guy chance to answer if he aint on line he cant answer, anyway i aint buying so dont shoot me down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENGRASS Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Have you got the right info on that greengrass ??? Yes mate this is a bird i gifted to our Gladdo at Blackpool along with others, never transferred. seems to have a great memory for positions and birdage but not where they came from............strange that. Think the very least he can do here is donate whatever the bird makes to Franks charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 excuse me here Greengrass are you saying he is selling birds that where gifted to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENGRASS Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 excuse me here Greengrass are you saying he is selling birds that where gifted to him in a nutshell yes but to be exact they are for auction, dont get me wrong i gifted them to him and they are his to do with as he pleases, but not to publish with incorrect details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsberg Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 excuse me here Greengrass are you saying he is selling birds that where gifted to him and were never transfered is this right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 ah well each to their own just aswell he never got any off me as i would have been really anoyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxwell Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 If he has lost all the details perhaps it would be a good idea if he phones the Union to check on each of the birds ownership if they have not been transferred. At least then he will know who has bred them , none of my business just an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest strapper Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 If he has lost all the details perhaps it would be a good idea if he phones the Union to check on each of the birds ownership if they have not been transferred. At least then he will know who has bred them , none of my business just an idea. most sensible idea alun, he could contact the owners then and ask info about them too. mistakes are easy enough but i would have thought he would stand a better chance of selling them if some info was availible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chrisss Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 i was never going to jump in on this, i have no interest in buying birds with the history unknown to anyone, but if you have a bird that has not been transfrerred you cannot sell it?[am i right in this?]it is not your bird to sell,do not even get me going on the moral aspect of selling on gift birds [with out offering them back to the donor]how can you sell birds when you are not sure you are the legal owner?[and what do the legal owners of these gift birds think of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjc Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 i was never going to jump in on this, i have no interest in buying birds with the history unknown to anyone, but if you have a bird that has not been transfrerred you cannot sell it?[am i right in this?]it is not your bird to sell,do not even get me going on the moral aspect of selling on gift birds [with out offering them back to the donor]how can you sell birds when you are not sure you are the legal owner?[and what do the legal owners of these gift birds think of this? agree, if somebody wanted to be funny, he could be done for handleing stollen prop if he can't prove ownership! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BRYANBROCK Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I AM NOW WITHDRAWING MY BIDS FOR LOT 2 AN 13 FROM THIS AUCTION TOO MANY UNASWERED QUESTIONS FOR MY LIKING SORRY BRYAN BROCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIGEON_MAN Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Just a thought Gladdo perhaps you would do better if you got in touch with the original owners of the birds and find out proper details then I,m sure you would have a much better sale,as I believe there are some very good birds on here. Have checked out one of the rings myself and it comes from Wigan,does that help out any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIGEON_MAN Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 When does the sale end advert says Tuesday 12th todays the 11th so is it today or tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackswan Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 once did a deal on a pair of stockbirds gave this chap stb clock in exchange for the pair with some cash on top the cock turned out to have question mark against it so i got intouch with the nehu only to find out that it had been a flyaway nine years before it took some time to catch up with this man only when he came back to the city only to be told that he could not remember and that i did not get it off him could say more but then . so just go canny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIGEON_MAN Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Have noticed that some of the IHU rings have 6 numbers after the year and letter could you tell me if the numbers are correct as RPRA have only 5,just trying to clarify if the number is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSTOON Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 agree, if somebody wanted to be funny, he could be done for handleing stollen prop if he can't prove ownership! First and for most, to commit an act of handling stolen goods a the birds have to be stolen b the owner has to believe or have knowledge that they may be stolen also. One of the birds in the sale, lot 13 as ive already stated is actually my bird, sold to Mickey two years ago, and no he never transfered the bird, but, do we all actually transfer our stock, i would say at least 75 % dont. Mickey, though on the other hand has purchased 10 youngsters this year and the year previous, all transferred straight away. In relation to him not replying last night, i can vouch for the lad as we spoke, he was out still celebrating his brothers wedding, and assured me he was going to have many a drink on me, so give the lad a chance and a break, like previously stated, if hes off line, then how can he reply. Mickey asked my advice about the birds and what to do. He was a keen new starter who took most gift birds offered to him and bought, in my opinion some fantastic stock. Like we all do at times, we end up over stocked and not knowing what to do with the birds, sometimes not even breeding from them giving them the justice they deserve, but thats pigeon racing and fanciers alike, we all want to get to the top. I think this auction is a great chance for people to get some good stock birds cheap, yes, details are limmited, thats possibly why there there for auction and are so cheap, and i also believe that if i like the look of a pigeon, i dont necessarily look at the pedigree when buying, and it aint served me wrong yet!!! Ive text mickey, so maybe youll get your answers your looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chrisss Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 once did a deal on a pair of stockbirds gave this chap stb clock in exchange for the pair with some cash on top the cock turned out to have question mark against it so i got intouch with the nehu only to find out that it had been a flyaway nine years before it took some time to catch up with this man only when he came back to the city only to be told that he could not remember and that i did not get it off him could say more but then . so just go canny when was this/ as the guy [and his supporters] claim he is a new starter from last year,and jstoon as you are well aware if these birds are not transferred HE CANNOT SELL/SHOW OR RACE THEM.THEY ARE NOT HIS BIRDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan p Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 we never transfer stock birds racers yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chrisss Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 we never transfer stock birds racers yes agreed mate my point is you should not/cannot sell them if they are not transferred to you as the ring is not yours,what happens if you buy one of these it gets out and you get the stray report,but it was sold to another on this site after you GAVE IT TO HIM,the best thing this guy [and frankly admin] can do is drop this sale very fast, get all of the proper details together, and then come back and try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 agreed mate my point is you should not/cannot sell them if they are not transferred to you as the ring is not yours,what happens if you buy one of these it gets out and you get the stray report,but it was sold to another on this site after you GAVE IT TO HIM,the best thing this guy [and frankly admin] can do is drop this sale very fast, get all of the proper details together, and then come back and try again I seem to run out of rings so i buy some in if i can, most of the birds are given to friends but some times forget to transfer them to my self,still my birds I think its because i work to much,to get what i have. micky aint trying to fool any one,or sell STOLEN birds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chrisss Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I seem to run out of rings so i buy some in if i can, most of the birds are given to friends but some times forget to transfer them to my self,still my birds I think its because i work to much,to get what i have. micky aint trying to fool any one,or sell STOLEN birds. i have not said that he is trying to fool anyone or that he is selling stolen birds ,I AM SAYING THAT THE SALE SHOULD BE STOPPED UNTIL THE CORRECT DETAILS ARE MADE AVAILABLE,not that it will be, prioritize banning people seems to be the order of the day now,if left alone this will be my last post on this i have no intention of buying birds where the details [and truth be told the ownership] cannot be proved or shown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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