** Jamie Cox - Coxy - Blacklisted **

[DOVEScot]

 

 

My comment was geared toward the latest 'idea' on the board, a team appearing on the doorstep, DoveScot. It is sod-all to do with parents, Coxy is an adult and the parents are no longer responsible for his actions.

 

Your comment on even a single guy doorstepping the parents is OK - would you feel the same if it was your parents? Being targetted by a stranger on your own doorstep because of your [son's] failure to keep to a bargain you had no part in?

 

Hazard a guess: you'd probably react same as me : "this is nothing to do with me so see that gate, close it from the outside".  >

 

Bruno, this time you are well out of order, and in my opinion is what is wrong with society when they take this stance

 

I have a sons that would not dare treat people like that, and if they did I would be the first to correct them

If my oldest at 31years old had done this I would have no problem in inviting a genuine person into my home and making sure it was sorted, if not possible at the time then I would sort it out believe me

 

[DOVEScot]

 

 

Thats one of the problems with doorstepping, witnesses. There's two of them and one of you? They have obviously made a complaint. Witness corroboration, that's all it takes for a charge and a conviction.

 

 

 

 

You need to learn more about the law I am afraid bruno, you can get someone charged with anthing you want, it is then put before the proculator fiscal  or sheriff and decided whether any action will be taken,

 

 

[DOVEScot]

BRUNO CHILL OUT I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COXY'S PARENTS BUT IF I WAS IN THE SAME POSITION AS HIS PARENTS AND MY BOY HAD DONE WHAT HE HAS DONE AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT I WOULD KICK HIM UP AND DOWN THE PLACE > > > >

 

Sorry Alf but this time it has everything to do with his parents, they are as bad as him

[ALF]

 

Sorry Alf but this time it has everything to do with his parents, they are as bad as him

 

IT'S ALL DOWN TO THE WAY YOU BRING UP YOUR CHILDREN DOVESCOT AND I WAS JUST SAYING IF HE WAS BROUGHT UP RIGHT HE WOULD'NT HAVE BEEN AS MUCH OF A *expletive removed* AS HE IS ;)

[DOVEScot]

 

IT'S ALL DOWN TO THE WAY YOU BRING UP YOUR CHILDREN DOVESCOT AND I WAS JUST SAYING IF HE WAS BROUGHT UP RIGHT HE WOULD'NT HAVE BEEN AS MUCH OF A *expletive removed* AS HE IS ;)

 

never had to lay a hand on any of my kids but they knew the lines not to cross, and still do, even  at 31 and a foot taller than me, would take them any place with no fear of them letting themselves down

[swilcox]

Hello Everyone

 

My first point is Coxy, i hate what you have done and i hate how you operate, its fruad and with the help of a good solicitor we can take you to the courts, that way we can get some justice for the many who have been affected by your appaulling actions.

 

Secoundly as someone who sales pigeons in a correct and very proffesional way its makes me sad that Coxy has used and abused this site and i believe we should all pull together to fight this idiot, and coxy i heard you saying lately that you would defend yourself against anyone one who attacked you!!! Well pick a fight with me!!!

 

Finally from a personnel point of view some of you attack all,  etccock, tammy, chrissy and the like, well all i will say is that i take pride in the fact that such a thread will never be started about me and im proud to say that my customers are my priority.

 

Lets get Pigeon basics back on-line

 

Stuart Wilcox

[Fair Play]

Surely this cannot be the same "coxy shi---g " who is pleading poverty and only a week ago offered Phillips £80.00 for one of his birds and if you can change your IP and user name so easily it is going to make it harder for honest fanciers to sell birds as we will all be under suspicion (will it be, maybe its "coxy shi---g" syndrome!)

[gangster]

he will sneak on  when boards empty or not show himself....... comon coxy lets see you explain this last episode of  fraud.......

[jimmy_bulger]

as i said in a previous post  there is more than 1 RPRA rule that covers alledeged reptiles of this nature.

[ch pied]

he will sneak on  when boards empty or not show himself....... comon coxy lets see you explain this last episode of  fraud.......

no point mucker

( he ain't got the swingers )

 

 

[Guest MBpigeonguy]

well there is not much to say every thing has been said, there is one thing you can do to stop him from coming on here forever!!! change the websites name!! address,

so its not so easy to find, but tell all the members what it is,

[Guest]

 

You need to learn more about the law I am afraid bruno, you can get someone charged with anthing you want, it is then put before the proculator fiscal  or sheriff and decided whether any action will be taken,

 

 

My post was procedurally correct. You don't charge anybody with anything. You make a complaint.

 

Police will take a statement from you and any witnesses.

 

Based on corroboration of witness statements, the police will decide if the law has been broken and depending on severity, caution then warn or charge the person(s) you complained about with a specific crime.

 

You are correct about second part, they then make a report it to PF who decides on evidence whether or what crime has been committed and whether to prosecute it or not, and a judge will hear and decide case outcome - all based on witness evidence and credibility.

 

My point was the strength with which 'corroboration' was viewed in the system.

 

And what I have learned from the justice system is that I always advise people to avoid becoming a perpetrator. Even being a witness is difficult, I have been a witness in a High Court murder trial and at times wondered from tone of defence questioning if I was the one on trial.

[pigeonpete]

 

Bruno, this time you are well out of order, and in my opinion is what is wrong with society when they take this stance

 

I have a sons that would not dare treat people like that, and if they did I would be the first to correct them

If my oldest at 31years old had done this I would have no problem in inviting a genuine person into my home and making sure it was sorted, if not possible at the time then I would sort it out believe me

totally agree duncan!! they are as bad as him covering for the scumbag, if it was my son it would be sorted the same day 1 way or another!!

 

bruno with respect, im sure you would feel different if he had conned you like he has alot of us >

 

[DOVEScot]

well there is not much to say every thing has been said, there is one thing you can do to stop him from coming on here forever!!! change the websites name!! address,

so its not so easy to find, but tell all the members what it is,

 

Not really practical changing the name, as the Coxy's of this world win,

The site is not responsible for this happenning as I said in my opening statement, we are the site members and we should police it's content. Then it is up to the officials to take appropriate action to try and stop this type of thing occurring or reoccurring, if people can produce evidence that the site can act on

I posted Coxy's details so that everyone could see

Tips

Do not send cheques to that address

Be wary of sales around the Burslem area

Ask them to take birds to another member, or if it is ok for another member in the area to come and see the birds, because the Coxy's will try again

I have assured the Webmaster I will not post his details again, as it puts a pressure on him by issuing personal details on the site

BUT IF YOU WANT THEM I WILL  PM THEM TO YOU

 

[pigeonpete]

did you get your white pigeons dovescote? i will be able to sort you out with 2 or 3 if you want?? send me cheque for £300 and i will get coxy to deliver them!! NO SERIOUS  there yours if you want them??

[DOVEScot]

 

My post was procedurally correct. You don't charge anybody with anything. You make a complaint.

 

Police will take a statement from you and any witnesses.

 

Based on corroboration of witness statements, the police will decide if the law has been broken and depending on severity, caution then warn or charge the person(s) you complained about with a specific crime.

 

You are correct about second part, they then make a report it to PF who decides on evidence whether or what crime has been committed and whether to prosecute it or not, and a judge will hear and decide case outcome - all based on witness evidence and credibility.

 

My point was the strength with which 'corroboration' was viewed in the system.

 

And what I have learned from the justice system is that I always advise people to avoid becoming a perpetrator. Even being a witness is difficult, I have been a witness in a High Court murder trial and at times wondered from tone of defence questioning if I was the one on trial.

 

Not always the case,

if I just lay a hand on you you can ask for me to be charged with assault

if I walk across your grass you can ask to have me done with tresspassing and damage of your lawn

Silly as it may seem these are the type of options of anyone that want to use them, and the police are now bound by a duty to act even though they know it is bullsh##

[EAGLEOWL]

 

My post was procedurally correct. You don't charge anybody with anything. You make a complaint.

 

Police will take a statement from you and any witnesses.

 

Based on corroboration of witness statements, the police will decide if the law has been broken and depending on severity, caution then warn or charge the person(s) you complained about with a specific crime.

 

You are correct about second part, they then make a report it to PF who decides on evidence whether or what crime has been committed and whether to prosecute it or not, and a judge will hear and decide case outcome - all based on witness evidence and credibility.

 

My point was the strength with which 'corroboration' was viewed in the system.

 

And what I have learned from the justice system is that I always advise people to avoid becoming a perpetrator. Even being a witness is difficult, I have been a witness in a High Court murder trial and at times wondered from tone of defence questioning if I was the one on trial.

 

bruno you are right , i understand dovescots frustrations theres thousands everyday been conned by people like coxy ,the system protects people like him not the good honest man woman of our society.sadly the days are gone where you could arrive at someones door and sort things out .

 

you arrive at someones door today your the one likly to be charged with affray as they will make all sorts up to defend their poor child as dovescot as said claims have already been made .sadly dovescot you will not get your birds or monies back these people know how to play the game ,im sure everyone would want to punish this scum bag.

 

i had a problem years ago when someone took all my pigeons out the loft and cut the rings off the birds ,when i was informed where they where ,i was like a bull in a china shop didnt think and nearly cost me my freedom.when the scum bag told the police they entered his loft the night before all with rings missing forty birds from one loft entering another loft ,yes the police believed the scum bag. i was told in know uncertain terms if i even spoke to the bloke i would be locked up.justice that .

 

 

[DOVEScot]

did you get your white pigeons dovescote? i will be able to sort you out with 2 or 3 if you want?? send me cheque for £300 and i will get coxy to deliver them!! NO SERIOUS  there yours if you want them??

 

That would be nice as Chickadee really loves the white ones, she has loads of different types, TOO MANY IF YOU ASK ME ;) but that is what keeps her happy, I thought I would surprise her on her birthday with the 8 white logans from Coxy as I knew that is what she was looking for

She is trying to get as many different types of whites as  possible

I am quite willing to pay for any birds for her, although I do think the ones in Coxy's loft are mine and I aim to get them

A number of kind members have promised her some next year and many thanks to them again and yourself also

DOVEScot

[Fair Play]

And the police are supposed to be intelligent individuals!  : : :

[Guest]

bruno with respect, im sure you would feel different if he had conned you like he has alot of us >

 

We have all been well warned about Internet fraud, news item other day suggests it runs to £Billions in UK alone. So for me anyway, its approach with caution in the first place.

 

Like others I have always tried to encourage my family to do the right thing. Dead easy to blame the parents - telescopic view that conveniently leaves out all other influences out there on young people.

 

And with respect, I have been seen as a soft mark and targetted before with 'your son/daughter owes me and I've been left with no money for the wean's food  ... another scam.

 

And again with respect, if I'd been done out of money like DoveScot, I would have been off down the police station making an official complaint about it, and I would also try Trading Standards / Citizens Advice to see if there was anything more could be done about getting my money back ... without having to spend more money to do it.

 

  

 

 

[pigeonpete]

but maybe if all the posts on coxy had not been removed in the past, this could have been avoided? could it not?  :-/

[Guest]

we remove posts on Coxy we get slated?? we cant win,, trust me

[pigeonpete]

we remove posts on Coxy we get slated?? we cant win,, trust me

 

why remove them then gerraint? :

[pigeonpete]

Probably because they have been asked to been removed by members and we have respected their wishes and done what was seen as the right action at the time

 

they were all probably coxy!!! with his 20 aliases rose ;D ;D

[Guest]

Everyone has now had chance to voice thier opinions on this matter, it will now be locked and made a sticky topic so everyone will still be able to read the posts.