Guest Hairylayer Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 I've bred some youngsters and have them trapping well but they are just landing on the roof of the loft and wanting to trap back in almost straight away, If I put them out and call them they came straight back in but at what age would you expect them to start flying around the loft and ranging? Should I be keeping the sputnik shut till I want them in?The older ones are about 10 weeks old and the younger ones are 8 weeks old.Should I be chasing them off the roof of the loft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Shut the trap. Only open the trap when ALL the birds are on the loft. The older ones should be well on the wing so maybe a bit of encouragement.If you have been feeding a bit heavy then the birds may be fat and uninterested in exercise so you may have to be firm with them initially u til they get on the wing.Control is what you need and feeding is the tool to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster151 Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 I would never chase them just let them go as and when they will know, I would leave sputnik open at present, did you manage to have a look at any of those dvd's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 There ye go two diffo views in two posts lol. Nae wonder it's a hard game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbar Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 your y/bs will fly when they are ready,don,t chase them, as the guys say,they,ll get chased, enough when on the wing,put up some photo,s if u don,t mind, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hairylayer Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 I've been keeping them quite tight on the feed to try and get them under control and to trap well, they are all hand fed out of my hands or food placed into the feeder, and I call them, whistle and shake the Tin through the feeding time.They have been going out about 3 weeks as sputnik wasn't fitted till then. Had a look at one of the DvDs buster really intresting but haven't had tons of time with work to watch them all. Will take some pictures in the morning as my lofts not at home greenbar, maybe that's not helping, maybe giving them an open loft for a day would help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 They need to be chased in my opinion, i reckon thryve been feed a high protein diet. Young birds should be fit enough to be trained by 12 weeks of age. Lighten there diet dramatically with barley. Too much protein in a youngsters diet makes them fat and lazy, as soon as young birds start perching the diet should be lighter to get them flying quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 I've been keeping them quite tight on the feed to try and get them under control and to trap well, they are all hand fed out of my hands or food placed into the feeder, and I call them, whistle and shake the Tin through the feeding time.They have been going out about 3 weeks as sputnik wasn't fitted till then. Had a look at one of the DvDs buster really intresting but haven't had tons of time with work to watch them all. Will take some pictures in the morning as my lofts not at home greenbar, maybe that's not helping, maybe giving them an open loft for a day would help?No control with open hole.......routine will help you and them. Get them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hairylayer Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Ok Ive be been letting them out through the sliding doors on sputnik then closing them , but opening the trap part at the same time, I guess there just gonna come in straight away to try and get fed.Thanks for the help lads.There let out at 6am every morning before I scrape out and feed the other birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dal2 Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Ok Ive be been letting them out through the sliding doors on sputnik then closing them , but opening the trap part at the same time, I guess there just gonna come in straight away to try and get fed.Thanks for the help lads.There let out at 6am every morning before I scrape out and feed the other birds.Yip sounds good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james mcguire Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 I locked mine out until I want them in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knoxjn Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 if you chase them you will scare them from the loft where they need to feel safe take your time don't rush them patience is the key with ybds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Fifer Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Yup patience is deffo the key with ybs. The landing board is meant to be a safe place to be. Put about 20% barley in the feed for 2/3 days then maybe as much as 30/40 % barley in fir a few more days that should get them up.Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Reid Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 They need to be chased in my opinion, i reckon thryve been feed a high protein diet. Young birds should be fit enough to be trained by 12 weeks of age. Lighten there diet dramatically with barley. Too much protein in a youngsters diet makes them fat and lazy, as soon as young birds start perching the diet should be lighter to get them flying quicklytop advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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