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[celtic]

who's that dog gangster one of Dw's ?

[gangster]

...YES THATS THE BEST DOG HE EVER OWNED"NIELLSON" AKA SAM..............YOUR ON IT ILL PUT MORE ON LATER SEE IF YOU CAN TELL ME WHO THEY WERE.......PS NO CHEATIN WITH...B......

[Guest TAMMY_1]

WHAT IS HAPPING ON THE 7TH OF MAY  ??) ??) ??)

 

There has ben a special shu council meeting called to discuss the election of jb as president at the last meeting in march, there are some who doubt the validity of his election as the president again, something to do with him being delegate for WOS,  dunno much about it Rab  !

[Guest WINGS 04]

 

There has ben a special shu council meeting called to discuss the election of jb as president at the last meeting in march, there are some who doubt the validity of his election as the president again, something to do with him being delegate for WOS,  dunno much about it Rab  !

 

THANKS TAMMY

[Guest]

BRUNO DID YOU DELETE MY POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF SO WHY!!!!!!!! DID I SWEAR OR SOMETHING  PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EXPLAIN........................

 

There had been an earlier complaint in the thread:-

 

As Moderator - Took out some comments in Greengrass / Doos r us exchange, and posts quoting them, following a complaint.

 

 

You inadvertantly [nearly] started it up again - couldn't take out just the phrase as it left only words with no meaning, had no option but take out the post.

 

[gangster]

WELL AT LEAST YOU EXPLAINED THIS 1 NO PROBS......

[johno]

bruno your attempt to avoid answering any questions raised will not wash. you claim i am posting lies. please feel free to identify these rantings and lies. we will await the answer patiently. call my bluff. your current admission on the wos / dumbarton mess concerning the poor choices made by john barlow highlight your inability to read a situation. you are only taking this on board, after three months, in a vain attempt to save the bacon. why do you feel the need to try and ridicule and bully me? why are you annoyed so much by me? why do you feel so threatened by me?

[fifestay]

OOOOH different Year same P*sh ..like Eastenders this ...miss 6 months and you can pick up the story line in 5 mins.

[gangster]

OOOOH different Year same P*sh ..like Eastenders this ...miss 6 months and you can pick up the story line in 5 mins.

 

very true fifestay..................... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[harky]

OOOOH different Year same P*sh ..like Eastenders this ...miss 6 months and you can pick up the story line in 5 mins.

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D TRUE

[Guest]

OOOOH different Year same P*sh ..like Eastenders this ...miss 6 months and you can pick up the story line in 5 mins.

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D very true

[johno]

harky how you have thaffrontery to post again after your complete loss of dignity and control is hard to understand. most people would be too embarrassed to post again. poor show.

[ALF]

harky how you have thaffrontery to post again after your complete loss of dignity and control is hard to understand. most people would be too embarrassed to post again. poor show.

 

: : : : :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest TAMMY_1]

harky how you have thaffrontery to post again after your complete loss of dignity and control is hard to understand. most people would be too embarrassed to post again. poor show.

 

AGREE WITH YOU 100% HE IS A TOTAL EMBARASSMENT TO US DECENT FOLK IN LANARKSHIRE, I THOUGHT HIS DAD HAD TAKEN HIS COMPUTER OFF HIM ;D ;D

[gangster]

  HE CAME ON AND APOLOGISED THAT MAKES HIM A MAN DOES IT NOT HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE 1ST STONE...................................

[johno]

well done for apologising never seen it. would it not be better not to put oneself in a position which needed a follow on apology.the post by fifestay using street llanguage on the forum is not a good example to the younger browsers. p*sh etc etc. and a poor example for the forum in general.

[gangster]

 

AGREE WITH YOU 100% HE IS A TOTAL EMBARASSMENT TO US DECENT FOLK IN LANARKSHIRE, I THOUGHT HIS DAD HAD TAKEN HIS COMPUTER OFF HIM ;D ;D

 

   WHO SAID YOU WERE DECENT YOU POKE BADGERS WITH PETE THE WIERDO.................................................

[Guest]

Who,s pete the wierdo and which fed does he fly in???????

[harky]

 

AGREE WITH YOU 100% HE IS A TOTAL EMBARASSMENT TO US DECENT FOLK IN LANARKSHIRE, I THOUGHT HIS DAD HAD TAKEN HIS COMPUTER OFF HIM ;D ;D

 

have been told by the big boss to behave or computers goin in bin ;D ;D ;D ;D

[ALF]

 

have been told by the big boss to behave or computers goin in bin ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

AYE AND WE ALL KNOW WHO WHERES THE TROOSERS IN YOUR HOOSE :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[harky]

 

AYE AND WE ALL KNOW WHO WHERES THE TROOSERS IN YOUR HOOSE :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

i its no secret is it  ;D ;D ;D ;D

[ALF]

well done for apologising never seen it. would it not be better not to put oneself in a position which needed a follow on apology.the post by fifestay using street llanguage on the forum is not a good example to the younger browsers. p*sh etc etc. and a poor example for the forum in general.

 

GET DOON AFF YOUR HIGH HORSE DAFTY OR AM GONNAE REPORT YOU TO BRUNO :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest]

bruno your attempt to avoid answering any questions raised will not wash.

 

I have answered everything that merited a reply.

 

you claim i am posting lies. please feel free to identify these rantings and lies. we will await the answer patiently. call my bluff.

 

Lies...  Manipulation, loss of credibility: from your opening post

 

... also the secretary, a paid servant of the membership, has been phoning hand, picked delegates to encourage them to attend sundays meeting. this has been done at the members expense. this has not been approved in any way by the members or the council ....

 

 

Rant .... posts 59, 89, 95, 100, 125, 147 here are all typical examples:-

 

 

now now bruno why are you so angry? i am only posting what disenchanted members are saying. anyway 60 birds was the federation total so no matter how angry you are facts is facts. your own habitual attempt to put me down will not work. i have too much presence of mind and self belief for anyone using your tacticts to have any effecton me. i also have the added bonus that i post the truth. it would now appear that you do not wish to allow this. as to offering solutions i fail to see where you are coming from. is there a problem? in response as to whose business anything on this board is i was under the impression that it is a public forum. this implies that the content is the business of any unsuspecting traveller on the net. the now regular aggressive postings using words like damned clearly indicate it is time for you to go.  i suggest also that the usage of the word bullshite is a poor reflection on the poster. you appear to be quite happy with this kind of language. you appear also to have lost all self control. you also appear to now consider this forum as the bruno show. the truth is a faithful friend and a fearful enemy. it is time for you to face your demons.

 

bruno your post 70. you would have us believe that wos/dumbarton are not causing problems. you then go on to mention four other feds in the same position. surely this only highlights the depth of the problem. you would also have us believe that people have problems with a certain individual. this is not the case. the problem is clearly the way in which the situation has been manipulated to achieve a pre planned outcome. this has lead to making a mockery of the rules and the scottish pigeon fancy in general. like you i believe if this is what the membership wants then so be it. the situation with doos r us is such that he has fired terms such as bullshite at me and others and you somehow feel we should stand back in amazement. the content of a lot of his posts sre false and i intend to continue to rebuff his ravings to show up the real situation. like you say i am operating my freedom of choice to put another side to discussions i feel are not wholely representative of the feeling of pigeon fanciers in my area. if you feel that this in some way threatens you and that you should then revert to aggressive and demeaning language in an attempt to bully or coerce me then i am affraid you are barking up the wrong tree. you have repeatedly blocked postings in a vain attempt to put me off. i am too strong willed to be threatened or influenced by anyone as shallow as yourself. you have no position of strength or power. you appear to be a person who thrives on the idea of being a badge wearer. it would appear from disenchanted fanciers who know you that you would like to be a dictator or jumped authority of some kind. if your actions and comments on this forum are anything to go by i suggest you will have great difficulty in gaining the respect of your peers as it would seem you have no respect for yourself. i trust that you will understand that this post along with all my other posts are my own personal opinions and not that of anyone else. the final question is will you call a halt to the thread or will you delete the bits that hit home. you being a bully would lead me to believe the fact that people highlight your tendancies towards being a control freak combined with your own inability to consider the position of others would only sway you to believe that whatever you do you are right.

 

bruno you continually fail to take anything on board. any postings i make i make based on what i know. no rumour. like other mere mortals i can be wrong in my assesment of any given situation. for you to use the language and ill inetentioned sub text in an attempt to ridicule me is not the actions of a so called educated individual. it only highlights your failings as a human being. you make claims about my own position when you have no knowledge of my situation what so ever. the idea that  because four other feds are breaking the rules somehow makes the current situation acceptable is ludicrous. as to my double standards i would be greatful if you could point to any of my postings where i have used language such as bullshite and other strong innappropriate language for a site such as this. this again highlights that anything is acceptable to you but the truth. i put it to you that you would have great difficulty in highlighting out and out lies in many if any of my postings. i attempt to highlight questionable situations making others aware of the facts as i see them. your dictatorial approach to life obviously gives you great problems with this. your obsessive and compulsive need to intervene and pass comment on all situations has left you in position where reality is hard for you to identify. the fact that you continually feel the need to take me on highlights your failings to sustain a mature and fair debate. i fail to see how someone with your experience and education is so hell bent in denying me the right to air my opinions. i am only a humble participant on the forum. i have no experience of dealing with human resources issues. i have no masters degrees. i did not in past take part in the local race equalty forum. i have not been a leader of men and woman as you have been in your past work. why do you feel so agitated and frustrated by me that you feel the need to attempt to label me as a sick person. have i missed something previously? do you have a medical qualification also. why do i annoy you so much. you always have to revert to the safety of the delete button. you hide behind the cloak of safety that you feel you have as a moderator. classic bullying tactics. i have no doubt and others have witnessed in the past that you will have no problem in closing this thread because someone will ask you to. you may even ask another moderator to intervene to save you further embarrassment. as to being turned out i am not a figure of amusement and ridicule in my local area. i have been told this is the opinion of you held by many of your fellow nw fed members. i have had personal pms on this site telling me so. one thing is for sure as long as there is life in me i will not stand by and watch wrongs being done and say nothing. i can assure you there is no witch hunt. the contrived situation within wos /club/ fed is wrong. if you and others are happy with it then so be it. i will maintain my right to post any facts as i see them. your previous bullying and continued underhand attempt at frightening me off will not stop me. your own high opinion of your capabilities and high handeed approach to all matters leaves you without many supporters. i know that deep deep down you know that i am right. you know that you cannot compete with my approach and this only feeds your obsessiion and craving for what you see as a victory. good luck to you with your doos. you would be well advised to spend more time with them than on this forum as with the pigeons you only highlight your deficiencies on a weekly basis. you are doing this 3 or 4 times daily on this forum. sincerely good luck with the pigeons.

 

doos r us thank you for the apology.  the number of pigeons sent was never mentioned. the pick up time at dumbarton may well have been 8.15. the people who took the pigeons to the midland transporter did not put them on the transporter until 10.30. i am not questioning your right o act as your members choose. i am questioning the way in which you and your members allowed your selfs to be misused as a vehicle, unconstitutional, to allow the president of the shu to be your delegate to the shu. i am questioning the intention of jb to participate in flying pigeons in the wos club / fed. i am questioning your continual inaccurate postings. i am questioning your lack of fact in your postings. i am questioning your refusal to give a straight answer. i have pointed out five or six different things to you. you respond to one or two and say i am wrong. poor show. then again your choice.

 

bruno if you really think i am sick why do you feel the obsessive need to attack me and my posts? as to mentioning the fact that your club and fed mates think you are a figure of ridicule i am only repeating what i have been told. the same as you would have people believe that i have left a trail of broken sporting relationships behind me based on what you have been told. once again your attempting to camouflage your bullying with long winded and over indulgent language. face the truth you cannot cope with my approach. truthful fair and open. poison to a bully. you cannot cope with the fact that most people cannot suffer your pompous and high handed approach to matters. stand back and have a look in the mirror. always remember it is never to late to change. never say never. help is available. you only need to ask. admitting a problem is the first step towards doing something about it.

 

bruno i speak for myself as i have pointed out many times. the majority will speak for trhemselves. your feeble attempts at shutting me up have failed. as i said the truth is hard to beat. your bullying days and ways are over. again i ask why are you so annoyed by the truth?

 

your current admission on the wos / dumbarton mess concerning the poor choices made by john barlow highlight your inability to read a situation. you are only taking this on board, after three months, in a vain attempt to save the bacon.

 

Clubs becoming federations: your Post 23,

 

the shu like your self have repeatedly and maliciously refused to operate within their own rules and constitution.

 

I didn't misread the situation. On this forum, you have continually sought to demonise the SHU and implicated the whole management structure in wholesale wrong doing. It has always been my contention that this is the wrong forum to raise these issues as nothing can be solved here ,, quite the opposite a lot of damage can be done by misinformed people like yourself. I collected information at source which suggests that the WoS issue is far for straight forward. There is now a Council meeting to dicuss this and other issues.

 

There is also a world of difference between actions which deliberately flout rules and constitution, as you and others inferred, and actions which are the result of  poor judgement based on the equally poor advice given.

 

why do you feel the need to try and ridicule and bully me? why are you annoyed so much by me? why do you feel so threatened by me?

 

Your paranoia appears to be getting worse. Print this off and take it along to your health centre, I'm sure they will be able to help you.

[johno]

bruno all you have done here is re post everything i have posted. you again have answered nothing. what are you frightened of? all your years of study and this is what you come up with. why are you so intimidated by my posts? what are you afraid of?  are you now trying to hide your bullying tendencies? you posted you now accept that president of the shu may well have been ill advised. now you attempt to portray my post outlining this situation as lies and a rant. come on dont be foolish. stand up for what is right. ill go for a wee while now and let you get on with your bullying. there is nothing to be afraid of in the truth.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

   WHO SAID YOU WERE DECENT YOU POKE BADGERS WITH PETE THE WIERDO.................................................

 

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