SHU COUNCIL MEETING 7th MAY 07

[Guest TAMMY_1]

would just like to make a post regarding something i was told today from some source , and according to this source and i have every reason to beleive it,and that in fact as to what as being described as a fracas at the door with vince was meant to be a smokescreen to cover up what was a far bigger stramash when junior vice president scott gibson was subjected to an even more astonishing torrent of verbal abuse outside after the second meeting that was held that night, after what i was told it is hard to believe that mr gibson actually kept his composure as to what was said to him by ???, well those that were there will know who they were if these things are true them the people involved should be ashamed as to the way they represent the shu, i was also given a copy today of a book which has been compiled by a mr h trainer and it contains a lot of facts regarding the west of scotland fed, they are facts because a lot of them are copies of shu letters and it would make your hair curl as to some of the things that have been going on, this booklet is currently being printed and is going to be distributed over scotland so i was told and when you actually see this it will turn your head inside out, also henrik you spoke about vinces behaviour outside the hall , i understand yours was not any better when you verbally attacked lanarkshires president, people in glass houses should not throw stones bobby,

[doos r us]

keep a copy for me will come in handy some time .i read it years ago only then it was written by hans chistian anndersen

[Guest TAMMY_1]

keep a copy for me will come in handy some time .i read it years ago only then it was written by hans chistian anndersen

 

well would have been hard for you to read years ago when a lot of the letters are dated 07, you will get a copy because there are plenty being printed to go round to anybody that will want to read it, this will be a best seller [ if you were buying it that is ]

[doos r us]

only shows duplication so what never said any different

[ALF]

only shows duplication so what never said any different

 

TRUST ME IT SHOWS A HELL OF A LOT MORE THAN JUST DUPLICATION ;)

[Guest]

got wan alf

[ALF]

got wan alf

 

YOU WANT TO BUY WAN LIKE?? ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest]

 

YOU WANT TO BUY WAN LIKE?? ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

as long as you have the copy rights i will  ;D ;D ;D

[me]

 

 

 

so why do u stay with it if its so bad , u must be very hard up to stay in an organisation u believe to be a laughing stock, or tell ure delegate what u think so he can let the shu council know, that's what any manly fancier would do, then they would deal with it,?????????

 

 

can't believe this post Fifer I have been a member for decades why should I leave I am not the one manipulating the rules to suit themselves. Find it amazing you are now encouraging members of the union to leave! I also notice you have not contradicted anything I stated in my post think that says it all really!

 

[ALF]

I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MISSING SOMETHING IN THIS WHOLE DEBATE AND THAT IS WHO IS PULLING THE STRINGS IN THE SHU AND I'M NOT REFERRING TO JOHN BARLOW!!!

[Guest]

My own feeling is that the running of the Union seems to have got away from ordinary members. Things brought out here only happen because folks stand by and let them happen. At the end of the day these people were voted into office by us, and from accounts of this meeting posted here , appears in some cases at least that our choice of representative has been poor.

 

And I don't think we should let ourselves be detracted from main job by another WoS sideshow, concentrate on job in hand - get Council sorted and back in full control of Union.

[celtic]

What we need is not pigeon politicians, we need guys orgirls so as not to be sexist who are not interested in making a name for themselves but doing what is good for the sport, let's get away from the petty politics and absolute rubbish that comes out of some people's mouths, we are in the sport because we enjoy our birds, it should be nothing more or nothing less, forget about egos and get back to basics....racing the doos that we can enjoy without fear of someone jumping on someone else's back just because they are from a different region or whatever, some folks are making it all to complicated and political for what ?

Let's race the birds and enjoy them the best we can.

[gangster]

  to busy ripping each other to bits to get the problems sorted out...............................

[celtic]

I think they've lost track of what pigeon racing is all about, jmo.

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

It is all very sad, perhaps there is a lot of pressure on a lot of these delegates who have found themselves in this camp or that camp and are caught up in subjects and issues that they are not happy with.

 

Perhaps more decisions should be made by the members of the union at AGM's?

Perhaps the officials and delegates should be elected from the AGM.?

 

I believe that the ordinary punter does not get a direct say on the runnings of the union, yes he can go through his federation but if he is beat in a vote of 51% to 49% surely this 49% of the vote has the right to be heard by the rest of the country if it has got the welfare of the union at heart and after been heard by the rest of the members of the union this could turn out to be a large majority in his favour on union business.

And in all my time of going to federation AGM's i have never heard of any issue being brought up by any federation member that was going to be taken onto union delegate meeting most probauary because of the process the member has to go through, i think this is called feeling "detached from the SHU".

[THE FIFER]

It is all very sad, perhaps there is a lot of pressure on a lot of these delegates who have found themselves in this camp or that camp and are caught up in subjects and issues that they are not happy with.

 

Perhaps more decisions should be made by the members of the union at AGM's?

Perhaps the officials and delegates should be elected from the AGM.?

 

I believe that the ordinary punter does not get a direct say on the runnings of the union, yes he can go through his federation but if he is beat in a vote of 51% to 49% surely this 49% of the vote has the right to be heard by the rest of the country if it has got the welfare of the union at heart and after been heard by the rest of the members of the union this could turn out to be a large majority in his favour on union business.

And in all my time of going to federation AGM's i have never heard of any issue being brought up by any federation member that was going to be taken onto union delegate meeting most probauary because of the process the member has to go through, i think this is called feeling "detached from the SHU".

 

 

this has been the problem for a long time, members are allowing delegates to go to meetings and do as they want, its wrong, delegates should be mandated by their members, until this happens there will be discontent,

at the meeting in question, how many delegates were mandated ??? i bet none so it was a meeting of those present, not delegates as delegates are suposed to be instructed by their members regarding agenda of meetings, and as far as i see lots of members did'nt even know about the meating or know what it was about so how can we expect things to run as they should, the members must start getting together and let their delegates know what they want, and if the delegates are not doing so, or acting as they should then get them out.

 

[Henrik]

What I said to Vincie Tam was a direct result of his attack on the Fife Fed delegate which would have resulted in a physical assault if I had not been present

[Guest]

In ans to alf G/K L/B THATS WHO!!!!

[Guest TAMMY_1]

What I said to Vincie Tam was a direct result of his attack on the Fife Fed delegate which would have resulted in a physical assault if I had not been present

 

nothing would have been said to that delegate outside if at the meeting he had not approached vince inside and try and lift his papers and notes , i take it you never saw the scandalous verbal attack on scott gibson  which took place outside  as well then ?dont want to fall out with you bobby but certain folk seemed to have blinkers on and only moaned about certain things that took place while missing out the rest, wonder if the shu pro will make a full report in his article of all of what happened  when he writes about it, somehow i think not

[frank-123]

hope the pro does not report it

 

what would he write fife delegate tried to steal lanarkshire delegates papers then the lanarkshire delegate tried to throttle the fife delegate but Henrik jumped in  and stop any more attacks but unknown to Henrik the vice president was being verbally abused outside who remained calm and never threw any punches

 

its pigeon racing

[celtic]

But not as we know it scotty  ;D ;D

[ALF]

hope the pro does not report it

 

what would he write fife delegate tried to steal lanarkshire delegates papers then the lanarkshire delegate tried to throttle the fife delegate but Henrik jumped in  and stop any more attacks but unknown to Henrik the vice president was being verbally abused outside who remained calm and never threw any punches

 

its pigeon racing

 

From what i heard about the meeting the PRO would have to be writing about himself in his column but i dought we'll see anything about that

[frank-123]

its just embarrassing the quicker its sorted the better maybe an egm should be called to sort it if council cant do it then the members will

 

[Guest]

Try and get them to aggree to that bart dont think so they might loose if the members get a vote!!!

[THE FIFER]

its just embarrassing the quicker its sorted the better maybe an egm should be called to sort it if council cant do it then the members will

 

 

agree with u this cannot go on, something must be done, we can't go on and on, the place to get something done is by the members at fed level where we can question our delegates and the members put what they want and get things back to normal. i dont know if a general meeting would be the answer as they are sometimes just a battle and get nowhere, put out ballots to feds and let the members vote for to sort out the shu official problem, and let us members question our shu delegates regarding the meeting and if need be sort that out.,