grizzal Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 :(Our club has just had its first meeting of the year,we will be losing our club SEC + 2 other members, when the members were asked anyone up for the jobs? [ bang no hands] IS this what happens in most club?? SO members were ask to have a thinkabout it for the next meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiley Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 in must club agms especially down this end it will never go through at the first meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjc Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Thats normal, the members with most to say through the season will always have least to say at meetings when somethings needed and never be prepared to hold office! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 yup the same usualy happens in most clubs the secatarys job is a thankless job that no-one wants , but its the same few that call the sec from a dog to a pig if they get it wrong but wont stand up to the plate when the jobs offered to anyone , then the secatary usualy ends up doing it for another year, realy this job could be broken down to share over a few members , like ring secatary ectra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Game Keeper Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 i regard our club in high esteem from afantastic sec who is much apreciated tresurer clock commitee to people that load the birds on friday night .a short while ago we ad a sec that if couldent get his own way held the club to ransom afew bad members and your,e doomed we have now progressed to an open boundary any one welcome some top men in our club not frightend of competition any trouble makers are out . i believe if more clubs took this attitude there would an end to wire netting clubs open up to competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 all year back garden meetings then on agm all keep quite unless something for nothing like useing funds to pay fees then everyone has a word offiscals no chance lots of chops all year when they get asked to do something all run a mile and thats life of clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest strapper Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 this year has been my 4-5th year as sec,following 2yrs as chairman,ive aquired 2 new hq,s for club ,won a lottery grant (where we was turned down twice b4)done all the donkey work,run here and there. endless jobs not coming under the sec title and i was still questioned about summut back in the year. so ive told them they can stick their job this coming agm and ill just be a standard flyer and let someone else has the s4!t off them all,i know no one will take it on because they all are critics untill they are pressured to do summut themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjc Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 similar here Strapper, i've told em i'm not doing it after AGM, they already seem to have been holding private meetings in the bar so hopefully they have organised a replacement and i might get to race more birds next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 as chairman now retired show and club i would advise noone hold post unless they have very very thick skin and is able to point out to members they will not tlerate rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fair Play Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 The old willing horse syndrome springs to mind "the more you do the more you get to do" Thankless job someone always trying to shoot you down - I raise my glass to all who take the job as without you the options are "No Club" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paulo Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Chairmens a p*ss easy job. I reckon sec is the most thankless in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMaidment08 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Chairmens a p*ss easy job. I reckon sec is the most thankless in the world oh well then try running club with 12 natinol winners multy and there arguements on everything and anything see if its easy getting club balanced out and dealing with rest nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tskyes Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 HAT`S OFF TO ALL YOU SECRETARY`S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paulo Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 oh well then try running club with 12 natinol winners multy and there arguements on everything and anything see if its easy getting club balanced out and dealing with rest nonsense lol just tell them to come to order and wind their necks in ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Game Keeper Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 no job in a pigeon club is easy unless you have sensible people who realise were the sport is going . ive never seen a waiting list for sec and commities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 ive been president of 2 clubs 1 fed and cant remember when i was not holding some post but last year i let go for the first time in 14 years due to family commitments and had the best season ive ever had so the people who do thease thankless jobs do suffer with there birds but as usual i will prob. be back this year so be it there are some very valid points made on this thread but iam afraid nothing will ever change and the same willing horses will do it again (THATS THE 1 DAY A YEAR THE OFFICALS OF ANY CLUB ARE GREAT GUYS CANT DO A THING WRONG WELL AT LEAST FOR THE DURATION OF THE AGM!!!!!!!( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I wouldnt do the secretary's job if you payed me.A great respect and thanks to the people who do take on these positions your made of better stuff than myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzal Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 As mentioned by OLDYELLOW the SEC job should be broken down, hopefully this year it will be??.we have had afew members come forward since are last meeting so things are looking better :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shadow Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 as an ex secretary the job is not worth all the hassle and stress you get and if you do not get any volunteers to take over when you resign. I have seen clubs fold for that reason. or a pressed ganged member try's and lasts a few weeks before packing in and members come begging you to give one more year, nobody wants any resposible jobs but they all want to fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy rogers Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 BANG ON! Strapper, leave them too it, enjoy your pigeon flying and should they come a beggin tell them if they want you to carry on the job for the next season, the secretary salary will no longer be paid out of club funds, it shall be paid out of members own pockets which will be set at £50 per member plus additional fees. The club funds can then be allocated to prize monies for the Averages winners, best novice performances etc. Its gone on too long for us Secretaries the abuse ends here, if you want the job doing you pay us properly now for our time.Once you hit them hard in their pockets you'll find the abuse stops at once. Its because the startegy for appointing a secretary was they were expected to accept a low honorium and we was made to think the members were doing the new elected secretary a good turn,We now live in the 21st Century and the times have changed the secretaries dictate the price of doing the job.... After all its a 365 day job on call 24hrs a day, now divide that figure into what you club members pay your own secretary and ask yourself......................would I be prepared to do the job for that little pay, as a point of law, your all guilty of breaking it as what salary you pay your club secretary is way below the minimum wage (no days off,no maternity pay, sick pay, holidays) now come on lads I bet your throwing yourselves at being appointed WELL PUT UP AND SHUT UP THEN !............................RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennut Tar Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 i regard our club in high esteem from afantastic sec who is much apreciated tresurer clock commitee to people that load the birds on friday night .a short while ago we ad a sec that if couldent get his own way held the club to ransom afew bad members and your,e doomed we have now progressed to an open boundary any one welcome some top men in our club not frightend of competition any trouble makers are out . i believe if more clubs took this attitude there would an end to wire netting clubs open up to competition Interesting comments etc Gamekeeper & a lot of sense to it ;) one could say !!!!!!!, at least in my view. I also happen to fly in a open boundary club (By choice) & it certainly makes for interesting racing :P compared to flying into a small area like most local clubs do. Enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIGEON_MAN Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 As mentioned by OLDYELLOW the SEC job should be broken down, hopefully this year it will be??.we have had afew members come forward since are last meeting so things are looking better :) As a secretary of close on 30 years now I disagree that the job should be broken down,I find it far easier if I am doing the secs job,treasurers job,ring sec etc etc etc,then I now that these jobs have been done and I dont have to go chasing other people about if something goes wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry mccarthy Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 be like me dont have a club lol aint got no worries then mind you it wasnt my own doing and does get a bit boring but at least u dont have to put up with all the crap and backstabbing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doo.racer Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 If you have a good Chairmen and a good Secretary then look after them and support them. If you fail them then you run the risk of having people with their own agenda take up those posts which has been the ruin of many once great clubs. To the Chairmen and Secretaries out there, dont be too quick to let those muppets take over. By the time you say I told you so it is often too late! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred x Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Many of you have said, what a good job the secratery & chairman do in a club, What responseible job is it of the Presidnt.??? I know the RPRA has a booklet on how to run a club. It has the Secratery & Chairmans dutys, But nothing on the Presidents job!!! Any ideas???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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