The Navigator Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Let's see after the investigation what the outcome will be.
pjc Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 she will be hung out to dry by the Dinosaurs!
mark Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 she will be hung out to dry by the Dinosaurs! then its time to back her.
pjc Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 maybe somebody should inform the local authority to get a visit from the health and safety department!
pjc Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 maybe as well as the petition every member on here should send an e-mail to the GM, bearing in mind the current and new are working side by side so the new GM can see what the membership realy think of the way the organisation is run! gm@rpra.org Phil
superstar Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 she will be hung out to dry by the Dinosaurs! Maybe your right, but with the backing of the membership, plus when her points get looked into and found to be true they should think again? If this lot don't listen whats needed is a new modern fresh Union for all to join and let the old stagers get on with it cause at the rate they are going they will have nothing left to command in the not to distant future. Sad but none the less true! So all you people get and sign the petition to save one of the best at R.P.R.A Headquaters cause it will be no good saying we have lost one of the best at a later date. This is certainly one way to see if they do listen to the membership so get to it and we will soon see!
Guest strapper Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 although i think karen spoke out in the best interests of the rpra , she spoke out against employers and now unfortunately she has to face the music....as in any other employment...what employer would except it?. its no good just signing a petition, what needs doing is a signed letter coming from each club in the rpra backing karen, no good coming from fanciers not rpra members as this will be discounted. maybe a protest outside rpra HQ . i can see this unfortunate incident from both angles and what karen should have done is go about it in the proper manner, what she did was play into the oldies hands and just what they probably wanted. now she is paying the price for speaking her mind, maybe if more did that then this wouldnt be an issue , i hope karen gets what she intended to be the outcome and gets back her position in the rpra....after all she was doing it for the good of the workforce there.
superstar Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 although i think karen spoke out in the best interests of the rpra , she spoke out against employers and now unfortunately she has to face the music....as in any other employment...what employer would except it?. its no good just signing a petition, what needs doing is a signed letter coming from each club in the rpra backing karen, no good coming from fanciers not rpra members as this will be discounted. maybe a protest outside rpra HQ . i can see this unfortunate incident from both angles and what karen should have done is go about it in the proper manner, what she did was play into the oldies hands and just what they probably wanted. now she is paying the price for speaking her mind, maybe if more did that then this wouldnt be an issue , i hope karen gets what she intended to be the outcome and gets back her position in the rpra....after all she was doing it for the good of the workforce there. Are you some sort of activist? Good idea though, they would have to listen then, Well the ones that actually go there eh! Do we track down the others to their homes? Pigeon Fanciers for Justice!
Guest strapper Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Are you some sort of activist? Good idea though, they would have to listen then, Well the ones that actually go there eh! Do we track down the others to their homes? Pigeon Fanciers for Justice! lol i think that they need to hear what the members feel about this in a strong way , but in a peaceful legal way. no good going in with ur boots on lol trouble is with mainly older people in office they tend to follow old ways and not really what the sport needs, it needs new idea,s and new thoughts about where its heading.
joe61 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 well what needs to be done is sack each and every one at R P R A and start again but that aint going to happen because all you like to do is whinge and whine and talk about things on your pc give the numptys their P45s and kick them out the door get people in that want to take the sport forward because when the end comes they will go with golden hand shakes with your money and will say UP YOURS get rid of the regions they are just as bad refuse to pay your fees with that lot at the reddings no wonder the sport is in the gutter strike while the iron is hot nows your chance oh happy days
Roland Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Well I will sign, not because I believe hat Karen shouldn't be suspended or reprimanded. Indeed one shouldn't wash dirty linen in Public, and it must somewhere be a breach oh her work contract... Having said that I' am prone to do exactly the same sort of / as Karen, and say 'Hang the cost'! so I'd hypocritical not to sign. But I would know there is a price to pay, and that 'Hang the cost' may wel be a dear one to pay! But that doesn't make her right, nor us. Possible with our moral support something may well change for Karen's benefit, let's hope so... But the RPRA may well argue about 'Morals' though to their advantage. So yes I'll sign..
Roland Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 My signature and comments. This is how I view the matter. And yes Karen should be re instated forwith and without any loss of Face / Money or demeanor. Well feel that though perhaps not the way to bring this to the 'Members' notice, it is relevant, and as such Karen also has a Moral' duty to the members whose well being and welfare the RPRA are supposedly taking care of! In reality Karen should be applauded and given promotion and a pay rise. However in view of 'Best left unsaid' I feel that al that has been done is suffiecent on both side and time to put this matter to rest! Sooner fixed, sooner mended and in this case NOT forgotton. I know of course that we don't know of any future plans regarding this matter, but fairs fair... let it slide!
little sam Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 yes stop causing trouble wee man!!!! :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
OLDYELLOW Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 i cant find our old thread future of sport , however i feel that the damage within the R.P.R.A is unreversable , too many fossils anyone with any ideas are soon put to bed or cast aside as a trouble maker , there is only one way to to mend this damage and that is to start a new union from scratch , this union would however not be recognised by the R.P.R.A as a union , but if a shadow union started and gained membership then and only then would you have an alternative to the R.P.R.A , but the question would be those that just want to just send there pigeons and not get involved with the polotics join ? and we are at best a very small percentage of the fancy , if fanciers truely wanted change it could be done but not through the doors of The Reddings , as long as ex service boys are running the show the sport is in a nose dive situation , posts such as general manager should be split up and given to those with a passion for our sport , not for a golden hand shake till retirement sets in .
Fair Play Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Has anyone down in that area got any contact with any of the local papers that could take a lead and pass it onto The Nationals. Now that the can has been opened all the worms may as well be let out. I think Gangster summed it up correctly - we have an organisation that does not "seem" to work for us and "Jobs For The Boys" is the order of the day. Maybe Karen could be of more use to us on the outside by getting elected onto the committees and encourage others to do the same
Fair Play Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 A lot of companies now allow an employee onto the board, Karen could be our representative and protect our interests from the inside or is this expecting too much.
kirky Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 A lot of companies now allow an employee onto the board, Karen could be our representative and protect our interests from the inside or is this expecting too much. thay only do this for show, but thay still do as thay please.
The Game Keeper Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 well old yellow i have read all mesages with interest.we are governed by the rpra andgoing nowhere fasti feel you have hit the nail on the head give people achoice competition is good the ball is rolling now
ChrisMaidment08 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 well i just read all this and am dumbfouned at comments lets get real les said dont pay fees nuts les said get rid of com nuts yet loads on here say time to move ????were stand outside headquaters well yes because if you did how long do you think it would be befor papers or even news peaple came we as members have power to close rpra down not councle or anyone else we are the rpra im all for demonstrateing outside headquaters and bring to the attention of everyone we are not happy as to karen going public so what if its in our intrest well done her but she will be out of job bet on that but what if a meeting was called by members and members realected commitee we want to run things then we could sack has beens on board now and go forward????????
Guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 I dont want to get involved in the situation regarding Karen but i see all the posts about replacing this one and that one the only way to get silence in a pigeon club is to ask them for nominations for posts sec./pres. etc then they all start looking for douts on the floor so i cant see a big queue for thease jobs given that they travel all over the country and get as much stick yes they sometimes get it wrong in our eyes but i wonder if the people in the queue will do any better lets get real no one wants thease jobs no pay and as much s--- as you can handle
ChrisMaidment08 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 I dont want to get involved in the situation regarding Karen but i see all the posts about replacing this one and that one the only way to get silence in a pigeon club is to ask them for nominations for posts sec./pres. etc then they all start looking for douts on the floor so i cant see a big queue for thease jobs given that they travel all over the country and get as much stick yes they sometimes get it wrong in our eyes but i wonder if the people in the queue will do any better lets get real no one wants thease jobs no pay and as much s--- as you can handle although i agree i must question the no pay look atfuctions exspese.s for meetings car costs what cars olny thing does concern me is karan sulking as she went to most meetings so maybe not anymore has com asked for rent increase in house lots things changing aws some one said maybe not to her likeing and yes why wait so long befor saying anything
Guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Chris their are all ways people who do thease things and kick the a--- out of the expencies side but it would surprise you how many dont even take what they need to cover expencies ive been on various commitees for years and i have NEVER ever taken 1 penny and yes there is all ways 2 sides to every story but we will only get 1 side on here
OLDYELLOW Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 well i suppose it's hard to have a view when your practicaly are living in the pockets of your bosses and your home would be at risk , so you either put up or shut up but we are pasionate ands when we feel we have had enough ectra we have an outburst
ChrisMaidment08 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 Chris their are all ways people who do thease things and kick the a--- out of the expencies side but it would surprise you how many dont even take what they need to cover expencies ive been on various commitees for years and i have NEVER ever taken 1 penny and yes there is all ways 2 sides to every story but we will only get 1 side on here again i have to agree but we aint all like that now with rpra it looks like alll fuddys take what they can get crist even 25 quid exspences to go to 1 loft race site you must also consider why she suddenly said anything it will never come out the truth as its not public right to know
Guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Posted October 28, 2008 ive never been a yes man and i admire all who do this but that doesnt mean they are all ways right and things like this have consequencies
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