Lanarkshire FED

[nogin]

I'LL GO 100ML THEN STOP IT DIDENT DO KING BILLY'S YEARLING'S ANY HARM IN THE NATS .

[Guest WINGS 04]

I'LL GO 100ML THEN STOP IT DIDENT DO KING BILLY'S YEARLING'S ANY HARM IN THE NATS .

 

i but you are to him

[nogin]

 

i but you are to him

 

i dont think so :-/

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

I'LL GO 100ML THEN STOP IT DIDENT DO KING BILLY'S YEARLING'S ANY HARM IN THE NATS .

 

Nogin we stop a few pigeons at 90 mile stage as well mainly because they are poor in the moult or are young cocks that need that little more time to develop and many of these have been very successful as old birds but up to now in 2009 before Wetherby we have lost 5 young birds in the fed program. I don't want to winter 55 out of my 60 young birds bred that have only flown 90 miles and would rather test and educate them rather than having a cull.

 

Last 2 weeks of the season for young birds

 

Saturday race from Otterburn

Tuesday race from 125 miles

Saturday race from Otterburn

Tuesday race from 150 miles

[nogin]

 

Nogin we stop a few pigeons at 90 mile stage as well mainly because they are poor in the moult or are young cocks that need that little more time to develop and many of these have been very successful as old birds but up to now in 2009 before Wetherby we have lost 5 young birds in the fed program. I don't want to winter 55 out of my 60 young birds bred that have only flown 90 miles and would rather test and educate them rather than having a cull.

 

Last 2 weeks of the season for young birds

 

Saturday race from Otterburn

Tuesday race from 125 miles

Saturday race from Otterburn

Tuesday race from 150 miles

 

GARETH THE MIN WE GO OVER 100 MLS IT'S TABOO. I'LL GIVE IT A TRY AT 100 MLS ONLY NEXT YEAR AND SEE HOW I GET ON .....O.M.O.  

[Guest bigda]

 

i think you should stop trying to put this on the few members as it takes more than a few to win the vote to go to this race and distance

 

a vote for is  1 more thats all it takes as is a few, why not  get the national to have a race or 2 at any distance you like for  young birds  and  let the lanarkshire fed  do there own thing  in deciding the race program  not  being  made to follow on to the way of distance races  for young birds

we are  saying the young  birds  need to learn the line  of  flight  fine keep them at   2 kelso  and 2 otterburns and 3 hexhams till they know the  route  of  by hart as we and the  midlands and Glasgow feds have to fly in a dog leg  shape every week,  get the national to  accommodate you"s   for distance racing   see if they will give you any help after all  thats where you want to be  at the young bird national

 

[Guest bigda]

can anyone tell me why scottish feds dont fly any races up north

 

there future is marked out for them

and withe ferry costs to get out to 350 mile it is to costly

as  up to  the north the distance would be lucky to get 180 mile   before we need  to  get a boat for any further and the road to the isle  aint  any good never mind in the height of summer :o ;D

[Delboy]

You talk about club and fed members only wanting 100 miles. Is this not a backward step, when you think about how our fathers/ grandfathers flew the pigeons. I remember certain feds having 2 x Stafford ( 230 miles )yb races. We darent take  a step backwards, instead we should be looking to get to the bottom of these yb disasters. As Ive said before, communication between race controllers, federations and Governing bodies working together and fanciers in general playing the game, all this can eradicate alot of the problems we have regarding yb racing.

[Guest bigda]

You talk about club and fed members only wanting 100 miles. Is this not a backward step, when you think about how our fathers/ grandfathers flew the pigeons. I remember certain feds having 2 x Stafford ( 230 miles )yb races. We darent take  a step backwards, instead we should be looking to get to the bottom of these yb disasters. As Ive said before, communication between race controllers, federations and Governing bodies working together and fanciers in general playing the game, all this can eradicate alot of the problems we have regarding yb racing.

 

backward step indeed  it might be  but your forfathers  left you with birds cabable of flying those distances but a lot of so called distance men traded the scottish breed in  for  other type of birds as faraway  grass looked gereener and  now want to fly distance  races  and the birds are not up to it as you would belucky to amass 300 for races in the season  its a case now learn to walk again

[Fair Play]

And most Flew down the West Coast where the birds had a good line of flight :-/ :-/ :-/

[Guest bigda]

don't think there is a problem at 180 east or west as the wind will say what way the birds are going in the old bird program,  as the decision is made for the  bird by the  time they  hit the solway  as its only  30 miles  from  coast to  coast  with a mountain   just in front of it  we are not blessed with  a flat terrain  for the birds to see there own loft, as our  birds fly in a zig zag, constantly watching from  top  bottom side to side  for a strike, all at the same time,  and have loads of power lines to dodge  all the way home.  as these  power lines come down thought  the  valleys just like the birds  some of the power lines  are like cheese wire in a cold day and sag in the heat :-/

[Guest WINGS 04]

 

i but you are to him

 

I BUT YOU ARE NOT HIM   ;) ;)

[Guest JPH]

haven't read all the thread but i have noticed lately feds that liberate later after 10 30 in the morn seem to do better on average  i know there was more to this than that  but have being keeping an eye on times of libs and returns and velocities all seem better with later liberation's jmo

if you look back to old fed y b programmes

 

it used to say no liberations before 10.30 am ,  what was the reason for this .

 

nowadays as soon as the cockrel farts the birds are up in most cases.

 

 

[Guest WINGS 04]

 

a vote for is  1 more thats all it takes as is a few, why not  get the national to have a race or 2 at any distance you like for  young birds  and  let the lanarkshire fed  do there own thing  in deciding the race program  not  being  made to follow on to the way of distance races  for young birds

we are  saying the young  birds  need to learn the line  of  flight  fine keep them at   2 kelso  and 2 otterburns and 3 hexhams till they know the  route  of  by hart as we and the  midlands and Glasgow feds have to fly in a dog leg  shape every week,  get the national to  accommodate you"s   for distance racing   see if they will give you any help after all  thats where you want to be  at the young bird national

 

I AM A MEMBER OF THE FED AND PAY THE SAME AS YOU SO IF WE HAVE 1 RACE THAT HELPS ME GET TO THE YOUNG BIRD NATIONAL IS THAT 2 MUCH TO ASK OR DO YOU WANT IT ALL YOUR ON WAY

[Guest bigda]

no i want birds schooled in how to get home,  and  as you say why should the lanarkshire worry about the national.  

[Guest WINGS 04]

no i want birds schooled in how to get home,  and  as you say why should the lanarkshire worry about the national.  

 

 

so you don't school you on birds to home then

[rebel]

wat you have to realise is lanarkshire is a big fed and the likes of the kelso race you have members flying 40 odd miles at one end and around 70 odd at the other so the problem is trring to get a program that suits all members we ourselves were at the fourth race and were only at 80 miles

[Guest bigda]

 

 

so you don't school you on birds to home then

 

if you could get birds in the national to home in this day and age, you would find your self at the top end of the sheet as they are now 2 day birds dose that no tell you something about the stock you call distance birds

[Guest WINGS 04]

 

if you could get birds in the national to home in this day and age, you would find your self at the top end of the sheet as they are now 2 day birds dose that no tell you something about the stock you call distance birds

 

i do not have any stock but if you think you are doing well timing in from 150miles you are kidding yourself on

[ALF]

There's a wee bit bothering me about this race and what went on on saturday morning as i heard something yesterday which i didnae like the sound of about what happened early on saturday morning and i was at the South Lanarkshire fed sale on sunday night and heard a guy who i take it is a controller from over the east say he tried to contact our controller 4 times on saturday morning but the phone kept ringing out..so much for controllers talking to eachother and working together

 

I think the fed should be having a meeting/enquiry into what happened on saturday :-/ :-/ :-/

[Guest JPH]

Seems to me the problem occurs once the pigeons get beyond the 120mile mark with english organisations above us .Lanarkshire fed should take the bull by the horns and go for a midweek race from this distance to avoid any clashing. I know there are fanciers working etc but the most important thing here is the pigeons must come first.

 

when you all talk about this clashing why are the scottish lofts not full of english birds

 

surely in clashes birds go both ways????  but it seems the scottish birds apear to go the wrong way.all the time.   lanarkshire lost approx 4000 birds at weekend so why is there not 4000 english birds lost up here,   Think its got more to do than clashing. Jmo

 

 

[Guest JPH]

There's a wee bit bothering me about this race and what went on on saturday morning as i heard something yesterday which i didnae like the sound of about what happened early on saturday morning and i was at the South Lanarkshire fed sale on sunday night and heard a guy who i take it is a controller from over the east say he tried to contact our controller 4 times on saturday morning but the phone kept ringing out..so much for controllers talking to eachother and working together

 

I think the fed should be having a meeting/enquiry into what happened on saturday :-/ :-/ :-/

it has been mentioned in previous posts about phones ringing out and cant contact.

 

if this is true total lunacy

 

 

[Guest 67ghirl]

when you all talk about this clashing why are the scottish lofts not full of english birds

 

surely in clashes birds go both ways????  but it seems the scottish birds apear to go the wrong way.all the time.   lanarkshire lost approx 4000 birds at weekend so why is there not 4000 english birds lost up here,   Think its got more to do than clashing. Jmo

 

 

 

Each of the 22 Doos lost from here on Saturday all had phone number rings on them..............not one reported.

In fact there have been very few reported all year and of those that have 2 were with Non-fanciers??

 

 

[Guest bigda]

 

i do not have any stock but if you think you are doing well timing in from 150miles you are kidding yourself on

 

how do you thinks its fun sitting out 2 days and nights  trying to prove to your self distance racing is the bees knees,  there is  something seriously  wrong  with the  birds in to lanarkshire as was the same when we went to Scotch corrner,  the old chest nut,  cant be said any more this week the macs getting the first drop, they again  look like topping the fed,  so bang goes the ever ending story  for that. and of course they are a lot of birds missing, we need to start at the beginning and follow it closely as to  what is happening to our birds,  the peregrine is involved there somewhere,   but i don't know to  what extent, as all i get is the peregrine  ain't doing all this. :o well may be it is and scotland is there home  well maybe as one bloke say why no english birds flying away from  percy is easeir than flying in to him  for home

[Guest JPH]

 

how do you thinks its fun sitting out 2 days and nights  trying to prove to your self distance racing is the bees knees,  there is  something seriously  wrong  with the  birds in to lanarkshire as was the same when we went to Scotch corrner,  the old chest nut,  cant be said any more this week the macs getting the first drop, they again  look like topping the fed,  so bang goes the ever ending story  for that. and of course they are a lot of birds missing, we need to start at the beginning and follow it closely as to  what is happening to our birds,  the peregrine is involved there somewhere,   but i don't know to  what extent, as all i get is the peregrine  ain't doing all this. :o well may be it is and scotland is there home  well maybe as one bloke say why no english birds flying away from  percy is easeir than fyling in to him  for home

english north roader tend to hang down the east coast and dont really come into contact with hill to same extent which means not same attacks not saying none but not as much.  Just go down to moffat and watch what a pair of peregrines can do to a batch of a 1000 birds they may only take a few but the damage is catstrophic, birds just turn and head opposite direction.  you get lucky so many times then bang an there everywhere ;)