race controllers

[walterbmasson]

 

 

No really gettin it walter! Are u suggesting that we,as members, monitor the weather and then make a collective decision on the lib or are u simply wantin better communication about the weather then let a single controller make the decision?

Cheers steven

  dal2 i tried to post dont know if i was being blocked or not so shut the thing off the north of scotland fed did it last year just off the computer gave you an all round view of the weather worked very well with the depresion moving north very good result

 

 

[walterbmasson]

 

there again Gareth i might just say there up just to wynd yous up who knows  theres one thing if i did i would be thinking of the north befor libbing so they get a fair crack of the wip at dawn we go  ;D ;D ;D

 

100% right alan just look at results in past noon races  8) 8) 8) 8)

[walterbmasson]

 

When have you ever timed in a national  Whats you track record like in national racing (A big Fat Zero) ;D ;D ;D

You dont know what your talking about   Numty

it appears theres a lot that doesent see whats happening what about loosing 2 + hours before a race starts  ??) ??)

 

 

[walterbmasson]

 

Well if you had been in charge of the National races you would have liberated in conditions that were not suitable at the race point,

 

god help us all ;D ;D  weve had some crackers in the past  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D last year  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

 

 

 

[dal2]

  dal2 i tried to post dont know if i was being blocked or not so shut the thing off the north of scotland fed did it last year just off the computer gave you an all round view of the weather worked very well with the depresion moving north very good result

 

 

Who made the decision walter? Was it collective or commitee? The bother I have wae this at national level is, as you pointed out, there can be many weather fronts all around. Us down here would no be affected by weather in the central belt upwards and would be wondering why they arent up. Yes common sense would see a lot of fair minded fanciers do the right thing but there would be others wantin them up. At the end of the day there has to be someone tae make the decisions and probably be unpopular wae somebody.

Cheers Steven

 

[walterbmasson]

walter why dont you trial your suggestion in your own fed to see how it works say from 200 miles onwards to Hastings

 

jade we have used the computer last year it gave an all round view all directions gave the depresion a good hour came home the last 35miles rain but 100%returns  

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Do your home work Walter, i.e. use (google)

Would give you the web addresses but cant because of upgrading to a faster computer, if you do you will find there are webcams either at the town of Liberation or very close and also along the line of flight home.

 

Though at the end of the day nothing beats the words of a fellow fancier who is willing to get up early to help out the race controllers.

 

Spot on here Gareth  

[walterbmasson]

 

 

stephen on a saterday if you put the tv onto channel4 horses it takes you to each race course to let you see what the conditions are a lot of times its unbelievabley good you get the forcast off computer for france again good but birds are still held till 6am or after when they should have been in the sky [ i am no professor but i know holding them back needlessly is not acting as a national and catering for all of the birds so take a long hard look at whats happening

[walterbmasson]

 

Spot on here Gareth  

 

 

[dal2]

 

stephen on a saterday if you put the tv onto channel4 horses it takes you to each race course to let you see what the conditions are a lot of times its unbelievabley good you get the forcast off computer for france again good but birds are still held till 6am or after when they should have been in the sky [ i am no professor but i know holding them back needlessly is not acting as a national and catering for all of the birds so take a long hard look at whats happening

 

 

So are we sayin that the controllers are gettin the right info on weather and just no usin it correctly, or that the info, or something else, is dodgy?

 

[walterbmasson]

 

gareth ive done my homework just turn the tv on to the morning line and you can see what great viewing they get by phone links your the wise guy if you had a bird entered into a 600miles race you would be the first to ask why the birds are not let up if if if weather is right this mobile age can do just that

[walterbmasson]

 

 

So are we sayin that the controllers are gettin the right info on weather and just no usin it correctly, or that the info, or something else, is dodgy?

you tell me if theres something not right ive checked weather is perfect and not let up  ive even got it on lib line weather looking good then taking an hour + before releasing the birds and if gareth doesent see that phones is a way of getting better racing i will definately come down and do his homework for him ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

 

[BLACK W F]

you tell me if theres something not right ive checked weather is perfect and not let up  ive even got it on lib line weather looking good then taking an hour + before releasing the birds and if gareth doesent see that phones is a way of getting better racing i will definately come down and do his homework for him ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

walter your wasting your time with Gareth  he is like  an old race horse BLINKERED  if the weather is good get them away at first light give every one a chance of day birds   and if its no good wait untill after one and if its right go  make it a 2 day for all  

 

 

[Guest bigda]

 

 

here, here,  Walter has a point they  go at 4-30am -5 30am  fail at that window, then   the next window  1-30pm - 2-30pm lib   thats the only choice the Nat should have in all fairness

and you will find there would be a lot of 4-30 am  libs  can see where your coming from Walter, you don't fear mileage you fear darkness bigda as it is for every one, no just the guys  in the  central belt

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

gareth ive done my homework just turn the tv on to the morning line and you can see what great viewing they get by phone links your the wise guy if you had a bird entered into a 600miles race you would be the first to ask why the birds are not let up if if if weather is right this mobile age can do just that

 

If you were to use the Morning line on channel 4 we would in that case not get liberations until after 09.00 if you were the race controller ;D ;D ;D.

 

Your seem hell bent at getting liberations for 5.00 in the morning which borders you on being psychotic , tell me Walter how many races in 2009 would you have had liberated the pigeons earlier if you had been in charge of the SNFC pigeons??????????????????????????????????????????

 

Give as much detail as possible please. :-/ :-/ :-/

 

 

 

 

[Guest bigda]

 

If you were to use the Morning line on channel 4 we would in that case not get liberations until after 09.00 if you were the race controller ;D ;D ;D.

 

Your seem hell bent at getting liberations for 5.00 in the morning which borders you on being psychotic , tell me Walter how many races in 2009 would you have had liberated the pigeons earlier if you had been in charge of the SNFC pigeons??????????????????????????????????????????

 

Give as much detail as possible please. :-/ :-/ :-/

 

 

 

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 5-30  ??)  naw  ;D ;D  6-30 then ;D :X :X i ok ??)

[walterbmasson]

 

  thats to easy  ;D 8) 8) 8) 8)

 

 

[walterbmasson]

 

here, here,  Walter has a point they  go at 4-30am -5 30am  fail at that window, then   the next window  1-30pm - 2-30pm lib   thats the only choice the Nat should have in all fairness

and you will find there would be a lot of 4-30 am  libs  can see where your coming from Walter, you don't fear mileage you fear darkness bigda as it is for every one, no just the guys  in the  central belt

 

 

bigda mention race closes after furthest bird up the road clocked but that is a no no no but tell them the birds are being cheated out of 1 1/2 hrs a lot of rubbish well come up here and see if its rubbish

 

 

[BLACK W F]

 

If you were to use the Morning line on channel 4 we would in that case not get liberations until after 09.00 if you were the race controller ;D ;D ;D.

 

Your seem hell bent at getting liberations for 5.00 in the morning which borders you on being psychotic , tell me Walter how many races in 2009 would you have had liberated the pigeons earlier if you had been in charge of the SNFC pigeons??????????????????????????????????????????

 

Give as much detail as possible please. :-/ :-/ :-/

 

 

 

remember Gareth the weather is normally a lot hotter than here on the continent and lighter

in the mornings    so there is no excuse when its right let them go early in the morning  

before they are hitting the heat of the day   get the up no more excuses

 

 

[walterbmasson]

 

 

well gareth it took 3 controllers to liberate at alencon when every forcast was barbaric ducks would have gave up

[Delboy]

Gareth isnt the race controller anymore. Send all your views on a postcard to James Hannah ;D ;D ;D ps Nice to see ye at the AGM Walter ;D

[Guest bigda]

Gareth isnt the race controller anymore. Send all your views on a postcard to James Hannah ;D ;D ;D ps Nice to see ye at the AGM Walter ;D

 

was he in charge at any time,  on this planet  ;D  Houston we have a problem.  ;D ;D :X

[walterbmasson]

Gareth isnt the race controller anymore. Send all your views on a postcard to James Hannah ;D ;D ;D ps Nice to see ye at the AGM Walter ;D

i know gareth isnt involved in it i did not post him it was gareth but take the agm closer and i would certainly go but as you posted me how is it in the history of the SNFC THERE HASENT BEEN AN EARLY LIB i am not hiding nothing its in the rule book if 4.30 am no use remove it and if you are the only ones that has the right to time a day doo why call it a national for the whole of scotland come on

 

 

[Guest bigda]

i know gareth isnt involved in it i did not post him it was gareth but take the agm closer and i would certainly go but as you posted me how is it in the history of the SNFC THERE HASENT BEEN AN EARLY LIB i am not hiding nothing its in the rule book if 4.30 am no use remove it and if you are the only ones that has the right to time a day doo why call it a national for the whole of scotland come on

 

 

good points there Walter, plenty of feds have libbed at 4-30 from France  i think they are scared of the northern birds beating them,  they call them selfs distance fliers  but you and  me Walter know  who the real fliers are in the national

you don't fear the mileage  your birds have to come  all your looking for is a  fair playing field  giving you 16-17 hours to get home  at 680 mile  40mile per hour  = 17hrs  up at 4-30 home for 9-30 pm     you are not asking for much walter just a bit of fairness and for the central guys there birds would be  13-14 hrs on the wing at 540 mile home for 5.30pm

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Bigda, bLACK WF and Walter you have both at some point said that plenty 04.30 liberations have taken part by other organisations,

please name them,

 

if you dont watch it the men in the white coats will be coming for you.