Guest chad3646 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 OK I have objected to the hawk business all over the place, I have spoken at planning committe meetings of Dumfries and Galloway council.I have addressed the countryside and wildlife committee of the Scottish Parliament all to no avail. I plead guilty to not having taken any direct action against predators but I do not think that merits personal abuse. as you say walter all to no avail
walterboswell59 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 IMO, your post is disrespectful to the top fanciers that will be up at the top of the fed sheet this week, the same very fanciers that have been very successful last year, this in all kinds of weather conditions. I don't think you giving racing pigeons the credit they deserve Wattie, they are born with a built in homing instinct and personally i don't see the need to give latebreds 30+ tosses as some fanciers have on this site, time and cost of this needless exercise alone is outwith the average fancier, if after 5-6 tosses a fit latebred cant get home from a race from 80 miles then in my opinion there has to be a question mark regarding this pigeon. Can remember in 2002, the first year flying young birds after moving to Larkhall, young birds had only 4 tosses prior to the first race and that was all they had, the reason being that i was too busy building an extension on the house, needless to say it was probably the best young bird season we had, including winning the young bird average in the west section of the fed flying against 3500 young birds most weeks. ++ the best fancier racing young birds in the Lanarkshire fed in 2013 only had a handful off tosses last year. Bloodlines first, then let the basic instinct that pigeons are born with take over.no disrespect to any fancier gareth is meant m8 but thats why its called a blaw hame m8 and as for training no one trained harder than your old man god rest rest him so no bull s t eh guys are wondering why there losing them im giving them my opinion why there not losing them cause there bad pigeons there losing them because they have not learned enough and are not fit enough to get home when they make a mistake which is proving to be the case but ill be glad to hear from anyone else who can tell us how to lose less pigeons we can all pick holes in other peoples methods im trying to help by giving them an alternative we could all give an example of one pigeon doing this or that with little or no training but they are the exception not the rule
philg50 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 walter i agree with everything delboy has said it is up to you and all the rest of the pigeon fanciers to do something about it other than moan about itOk so if people were taking things into their own hands and doing something about it ie sorting out their own areas by whatever means it takes ,will Feds & Unions come forward and pay the fanciers fines if they get caught !!
Walter swanston Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Ok so if people were taking things into their own hands and doing something about it ie sorting out their own areas by whatever means it takes ,will Feds & Unions come forward and pay the fanciers fines if they get caught !! In a word NO
philg50 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 In a word NOSo on saying this the only way forward is through the courts ,and push for change in law.As well as hawk problems i have crows that try to take my youngsters in mid air,as well as the ferral cats ,i should be allowed the right to protect my stock imo.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 no disrespect to any fancier gareth is meant m8 but thats why its called a blaw hame m8 and as for training no one trained harder than your old man god rest rest him so no bull s t eh guys are wondering why there losing them im giving them my opinion why there not losing them cause there bad pigeons there losing them because they have not learned enough and are not fit enough to get home when they make a mistake which is proving to be the case but ill be glad to hear from anyone else who can tell us how to lose less pigeons we can all pick holes in other peoples methods im trying to help by giving them an alternative we could all give an example of one pigeon doing this or that with little or no training but they are the exception not the ruleNo one trained harder than my father, don't make me laugh Walter, it's quite the opposite so don't try and flannel the members on basics that he hammered them down the road. :angry:
Guest chad3646 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Ok so if people were taking things into their own hands and doing something about it ie sorting out their own areas by whatever means it takes ,will Feds & Unions come forward and pay the fanciers fines if they get caught !! do it in a way that you cant get caught simples
Walter swanston Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 So on saying this the only way forward is through the courts ,and push for change in law.As well as hawk problems i have crows that try to take my youngsters in mid air,as well as the ferral cats ,i should be allowed the right to protect my stock imo.
Walter swanston Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 You are talking to the converted,I am trying to hand rear two I2 day youngsters both of whose parents have become hawk food. Does that sound like moaning to you
Guest chad3646 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 You are talking to the converted,I am trying to hand rear two I2 day youngsters both of whose parents have become hawk food. Does that sound like moaning to you expletive remove stop moaning walter lol
Walter swanston Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 OK I have to be careful not to provoke some more scorn from Mr.Boswell and Mr.Hay
walterboswell59 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 No one trained harder than my father, don't make me laugh Walter, it's quite the opposite so don't try and flannel the members on basics that he hammered them down the road. :angry:someones telling porkies then gareth if yous did not train and i dont need to flannel the members ive got the the birds to prove it how many you got left thats had five tosses and and raced every race including nationals i dont need to try and be clever about it the birds are here for all to see m8 2 and 3 year old latebreds included
tiger Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 someones telling porkies then gareth if yous did not train and i dont need to flannel the members ive got the the birds to prove it how many you got left thats had five tosses and and raced every race including nationals i dont need to try and be clever about it the birds are here for all to see m8 2 and 3 year old latebreds includedwalter every dog has its day all the very best in 2014 ,
walterboswell59 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 walter every dog has its day all the very best in 2014 ,true john all the best to you to m8 train hard and it will pay off lol
walterboswell59 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 OK I have to be careful not to provoke some more scorn from Mr.Boswell and Mr.Haynever said a word walter lol good luck to you i know it must be hard down there m8
geordie1234 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 true john all the best to you to m8 train hard and it will pay off lolHe doesn't train I'm told?
walterboswell59 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 He doesn't train I'm told?no body does george just me m8 lol
geordie1234 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 no body does george just me m8 lolPmsl
walterboswell59 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Pmslim just going to nip up to carluke for a bag of tic beans if anyones looking for me are you needing anything george
Delboy Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 OK I have to be careful not to provoke some more scorn from Mr.Boswell and Mr.Hay :D
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 someones telling porkies then gareth if yous did not train and i dont need to flannel the members ive got the the birds to prove it how many you got left thats had five tosses and and raced every race including nationals i dont need to try and be clever about it the birds are here for all to see m8 2 and 3 year old latebreds included Who said anything about not training, you quoted my late father trained the doos harder than anyone, this i had to correct you on as it was a false statement you made. Now your are refering that someones is telling porkies, please do inform me of the person you are talking about.
Guest GAV Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 I Just joined a club for the very first time and quite franky im getting disillusioned by all the bickering, jealousy, in this great sport, we all love racing pigeons, and should be concentrating, on more inportant matters, such as bop, losses ect do your own thing, we all learn by mistakes, if you need help ask, as for pigeon men and women every single 1 of us have our own secrets that we think work better,i.e training, feeding, STOP living in the past, help promote the sport, get young people interested, there,s to many grumpy old men set in thier ways in pigeon racing, no wonder its dying, GET a grip, rant over.
moscow master Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 I Just joined a club for the very first time and quite franky im getting disillusioned by all the bickering, jealousy, in this great sport, we all love racing pigeons, and should be concentrating, on more inportant matters, such as bop, losses ect do your own thing, we all learn by mistakes, if you need help ask, as for pigeon men and women every single 1 of us have our own secrets that we think work better,i.e training, feeding, STOP living in the past, help promote the sport, get young people interested, there,s to many grumpy old men set in thier ways in pigeon racing, no wonder its dying, GET a grip, rant over.Correct
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