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might as well add this .if you have wing stamped your yb,s or have a phone number ring on .it time to get them off yb,s if going to yb national.

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2215 is mine,lost last week from Ripon, thanks for doing that.

Been in touch with Angus fed and arranged to

Have aberdeen and north fed birds picked up

and brought up as far as Forfar at least

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Pigeon359

 

i did read posts but read it as ye couldnt be bothered to try and phone after 1 or 2 failed attempts

 

i wasnt nit picking ...i only gave my point of view, credit goes to urself for trying and getting them to stray center and posting list on here...many wouldnt.

 

granted more to life than pigeons....

 

hoping any of mine dont end up in Edinburgh was a joke at the end without a smiley :rolleyes:

 

now get back to work while i finish me botlle :lol: :lol:

 

:P

Mick

No worries Mick, a smiley makes a world of difference in any text or post as it shows the true meaning or attitude of the author and I have seen it on this site a hundred times with posts being mis- understood though lack of punctuation. Even the lack of a full stop can lead to a mis-interpretation of what is meant. Me, I have a lot to say for myself for this fact alone. I call a spade a spade and say it how it is using the appropriate punctuation as I don’t believe in having people trying to read between lines and reading something that they think is hidden amongst my words. I can be accused of stating too much but that’s where and why my text or post should be read AS IS and not what people think it is meant to mean.

I am all for ripping into people where it is deserved and am one of the first to speak my mind about something I know to be right or believe in. I wont leave you guessing what I mean, FACT. In this case I think a pat on the back is warranted for my efforts and not to have the pb lynch mob waiting to pull me up on every little thing that they THINK is between the lines of my posts.

The owner of the bird which had the telephone ring saw nothing wrong in the way I handled the information of his bird and indeed thanked me! Others saw it as a chance to brighten up their Friday night and try to shoot me down for doing a good deed by insinuating things not even said in my post. Get real lads!

Not one of you who tried to criticise, including you mick, even asked me one simple question before jumping onto the bandwagon and telling me how wrong my actions were and how you all deserve fancier of the year award for your own good work with strays. That simple question was, when did I get that particular bird in or how long had I had it for? I told you I tried to contact the owner a couple of times without success. All you know from the owners post was that it was lost a week prior from Ripon. Did I actually get the bird in 10 minutes before I went to the club and took what strays I had? I could well have only got it in 10 minutes prior and having failed to contact the owner twice by phone I had to rush to get other strays away. In this scenario, would I have been better to leave this particular bird in my loft to find out what the owner had to say first? Knowing too that next week will be SNFC from LEICESTER and there will be no strag basket? Do I keep the bird till whenever and if it didn’t clear then the owner would be liable for FULL repatriation costs? What would you do under these circumstances? Not ONE of you even thought to ask and jumped in head first at what you thought was written between the words of my posts!

Even the Admin side of things started the ball rolling by insinuating that the bird could have been home by now without even knowing how long I had the “POOR BIRD†as it was called! Was that a feeble attempt to put me on a guilt trip for my actions? Only he will know that. As far as I am concerned he is another one who failed to ask the simple question of how long I had the bird? How can he state the bird could have been home by now? If it had came in 10 minutes prior to the club then how would it be home in that time? If I had it longer then how does he know what I have done with it? Perhaps I did have the bird longer than that but how does he know that I hadn’t attempted to release the bird or even tossed it without it clearing or heading home? How can it be suggested that the bird could have been home by now and trying to put me on a guilt trip by not doing enough for the bird? You all want to jump down peoples throats assuming what you THINK you know, but in actual fact, know nothing and don’t even think to ask before shooting your mouths off. You can all try to give me as much flak as you want when it is DESERVED. DO NOT try to shoot me down when I do more for strays than most or some of you:)

To the lads who backed me up on this I send my thanks. How is it that you can see the GOOD in the things that people do for this sport yet others see it as a means of livening up their Friday night with a lot of accusations or insinuations of something or circumstances that they know nothing about?

I have explained in previous posts that I call a spade a spade and leave people in no doubt what I mean. In the future before you go trying to shoot me down take time to read my posts and UNDERSTAND them! If there is something that you feel you don’t know about then ASK! Don’t go throwing insinuations or accusations about when you have no idea what you are even talking about. Forgive me if I do not know that people on here are psychic and can see into the future or past. Im afraid I cant so you will need to take my posts AS IS lol.

Now if you will excuse me , I have other things to tend to. I have already cleaned out my lofts and its now time to grab another 40 winks before heading off to work again. I have repatriated many many strays over the years and will continue to do so in whichever way I see fit. If some don’t like my methods due to circumstance then it is you who have the problem and not I. ATB:)

PS. Have one for me tonight Mick…….lucky sod lol.

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might as well add this .if you have wing stamped your yb,s or have a phone number ring on .it time to get them off yb,s if going to yb national.

Doesn't affect me Gary. I only managed 5 old bird races this year and 2 yb races and wont be going to any nationals either. Still have more birds left than the ob loft will accommodate next year but circumstances prevented racing so few losses. ATB if you are racing yourself from LEICESTER:)

 

Been in touch with Angus fed and arranged to

Have aberdeen and north fed birds picked up

and brought up as far as Forfar at least

well done Jim:)

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Well all seems to be quiet tonight on the site and I take it most will now be tucked up in bed, lucky sods lol. Not long before I head home myself with a free mind for a change instead of me thinking of how next to defend myself! This ongoing saga should never have occurred in the first place and a post that should have had a maximum 3 replies tops from owners of the 3 birds has now turned into 31 replies and 1131 views in less than 2 days! Hopefully this topic has now come to an end as I am sure most are starting to get bored with it just like I am:)

Like I have said previously, if anyone has any issues with any of my future posts then please pm me and I will do my best to clarify whatever the question is. Don’t go assuming what is written between lines because there will be nothing hidden. If I have failed to mention something it will be because I have thought it of little relevance. If something needs to be clarified then feel free to ASK before jumping down my throat. Its as simple as that and no big deal!

 

Good luck to all who are racing today:)

 

PS. you are the only one Mick who has had the decency to apologise for getting the wrong end of the stick and I thank you for that. The rest I can live without so no worries:)

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Well done pigeon359 - I have an inclusive calls package on my home phone - so land lines are free to call - but I wouldn't call a mobile phone from it though

We had a stray in this week - and phoned the tel phone number (on ring) at least twice a day for five days - with no reply

Criticism on here - dreadful - and uncalled for

Posted

Been in touch with Angus fed and arranged to

Have aberdeen and north fed birds picked up

and brought up as far as Forfar at least

 

Only 2 Aberdeen strays from stray centre and I`m afraid 2215 is not there. There are 11 NE birds which will be collected by Jim Cowie tonight

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Hi Lads, I am as much surprised as you to learn that these birds aren't yet at where they are supposed to be????? I placed each bird in the stray pannier on the back of the trailer personally when the pick lad was here doing his rounds. I watched him drive out of the club to go to his next pick up and that's the last I saw of them. I really am not happy about the situation either after the time and effort spent caring and trying to repatriate them. I have tried to phone our club secretary who was at the club on Friday when the strays went away and he is also Midlothian fed secretary. The phone has rung out 4 times so I sent a text to tell him to phone me straight away. I also put a 4th stray in the basket from Dundee but didn't mention it on the list as I had already told the owner by phone to expect it. I have just come off the phone to their club sec just now and he has picked up the Dundee strays and the one I sent back wasn't there either although there was one for the same guy but different number. As I type now our fed sec has just called me and is phoning our race controller as he is there with the wagon when any strays are dropped off. As soon as I hear back I will update you all so bear with me lads. I am trying my best here and things are outwith my hands as soon as birds leave from our club. A bit of a headache for you lads and for myself, so I can only apologise on other peoples behalf and see what I can do from this end.

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Just came off the phone with our fed sec and he has now spoken to Peter Calder who reckons 100% that the Midlothian stray basket containing about 15 strays went to the stray centre on Saturday. Apparantly all club stray baskets go to Easthouses club first and are then taken on to the stray centre by Malcolm Lawson. Our fed sec is trying to get in touch with Malcolm now to further verify things so as soon as I hear more I will let you know straight away.

Posted

Fed sec has just been back on the phone and hasn't been able to get hold of Malcolm as he is on a night out at some theatre. He will try again later to catch him and if not then first thing in the morning and will let me know asap. Could just be a mix up somewhere hopefully as our fed was one of the few who basketed Friday and raced Saturday. The rest of Scotland basketed Saturday for todays race so there would have been a days difference from our birds going to the stray centre to the majority going to the stray centre the following day???? I am hoping this is the case anyway and only the latter baskets were checked for any of the birds phoned up about???? As soon as I hear any more lads I will let you know. Friggin nightmare eh!

Posted

Fed sec has just been back on the phone and hasn't been able to get hold of Malcolm as he is on a night out at some theatre. He will try again later to catch him and if not then first thing in the morning and will let me know asap. Could just be a mix up somewhere hopefully as our fed was one of the few who basketed Friday and raced Saturday. The rest of Scotland basketed Saturday for todays race so there would have been a days difference from our birds going to the stray centre to the majority going to the stray centre the following day???? I am hoping this is the case anyway and only the latter baskets were checked for any of the birds phoned up about???? As soon as I hear any more lads I will let you know. Friggin nightmare eh!

Malcolm takes them through on a Sunday

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It has happened a few times this year that strays which were expected don't appear until the following week. It appears that some federations don't go to the stray centre until Sunday afternoon to hand in strays which is no good to the feds which rely on their transporters calling in to collect the strays on their way back from the racepoint.

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Malcolm takes them through on a Sunday

Maybe it was different arrangements this week with him having a theatre night arranged and perhaps had personal things to take care of during the day ahead of this, taking them yesterday instead????? Perhaps the pannier was laid to the side next to some GB birds that still had to be traced and then forgotten about when the bulk load of the newest strays arrived? We can only surmise at this stage until things can be clarified by Malcolm in the morning??? Hopefully we can get this headache resolved!

Posted

All Feds should be dropping off and collecting strays directly from the SHU stray Centre.

Hi Willie, sorry about the hassle involved mate and hopefully we can get it rectified soon. If anyone can get this sorted it will be me or I will be on them like a hot rash!

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Hi Willie, sorry about the hassle involved mate and hopefully we can get it rectified soon. If anyone can get this sorted it will be me or I will be on them like a hot rash!

You have done your best so no worries on your part, I will just have to wait and see if the bird turns up.

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You have done your best so no worries on your part, I will just have to wait and see if the bird turns up.

They have got to turn up as it is all 4 I think that haven't arrived. Its not a case of one bird being accidently been put in the wrong basket. All 4 are awol so they have to be somewhere. I will do my best to find out where, I can assure you of that:)

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hi 359 my mate got his bird tonight from the lanarkshire stray centre there was some cockup the bird got there late thanks again 359 from myself and my mate good work :animatedpigeons:

That's brilliant bigjamie, ta for letting us all know as soon as you could, panic over lol. Could still be a headache for the Aberdeen lads though as they have already had their birds picked up so now other arrangements have to be made:(

Posted

Well done pigeon359 - I have an inclusive calls package on my home phone - so land lines are free to call - but I wouldn't call a mobile phone from it though

We had a stray in this week - and phoned the tel phone number (on ring) at least twice a day for five days - with no reply

Criticism on here - dreadful - and uncalled for

Hi REDCHEQHEN I couldn't agree more:)

It can be so frustrating at times and I have had similar experiences on more occasions than I care to remember. Even voice messages have been left and been ignored,and the phone number details were taken from the ring so there was no excuse! One mobile number on a ring I called for days with no success,or even a reply to a text message sent, eventually went through the RPRA. When I spoke to the owner I was told in an unconcerned tone of voice that he had lost his mobile months ago and had a new number now. HELLO????? UPDATE YOUR RINGS MATE, OR TAKE THEM OFF YOUR BIRDS TILL YOU GET NEW ONES MADE!! We persevere regardless though, as there are still some good and caring people out there that do appreciate what we do:)ATB

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