Bird Being Sick In Race Basket

[walterboswell59]

I had ybs last year first year back flying in 10 yrs frightened the life out of me to the exact day I have had ybs again the exact day a year on I was prepared tightened them off and the old bird race team noticed the stock birds went abit funny the odd weird looking dropping so tightened them down aswell halved the corn I noticed a competitors bird spewing up in the race basket we quickly pulled away the corn but thanks to reading on here the symptoms and signs adeno virus etc I noticed my youngsters became less responsive when called in peculiar pecking and looking at things that weren't there the old bird race team just looked under the weather we only race ten and I can ill afford losses so I treated with a mild antibiotic plenty of rest and they are looking a lot better we have had 1st 2nd and 5th first race and 1st and 3rd last week im absolutely certain its because we were prepared for the fall out the ybs affecting the yearlings our birds certainly aint better than others most send 30 good pigeons I think its because I seen the swallow checked my diary and thought we had problems last year the novice who flys from our garden noticed his birds were acting weird at first I thought they were ok but he was right the swallow was skimming the pen I recalled last year checked my diary and to the bloody day it was back the fall out caused some dark green droppings in my old bird team nearly luminous but hopefully we have managed the outbreak but its threads like this that make us all aware thanx again walter thanks m8 its nice to hear im not allways banging my head against a brick wall on this some people are picking up on what im saying and its good to hear well done and good luck

[JohnQuinn]

I have watched this thread and have read Most of if not all the posts. For what its worth these are M.O.'s on pigeon husbandry.

 

1. I have NEVER had ybs in my lofts.

2. I don't treat birds with medication of any sort. (exception is PMV Vaccination)

3. I have treated birds in the past for Canker/Worms.

4. It made not an IOTA of difference to the performance or overall health of the birds.

5. My motive is to have birds that are immune to General disease by NATURAL selection/constitution.

6. I am VERY close to having the type of birds described above.

7. IMO the men who treat blindly and en mass there whole team when 1 (ONE!) bird is sick are ruining their own pigeon's immune system.

8. Am happy with what and how a handle my birds and am the ONLY one i need to please.

9. YOU!! are the only one who needs to be happy with the way YOUR birds are treated/untreated.

 

10. MOST IMPORTANTLY!! Enjoy your hobby and don't get bogged down by other fancier's IDEA'S of how YOUR birds should be treated because it's MOSTLY their best GUESS!! as to what to do with under performing/sick birds.

 

The above is entirely JMO, and in my garden that's the only Opinion that counts. Have a great weekend and enjoy your racing.

[geordie1234]

I have watched this thread and have read Most of if not all the posts. For what its worth these are M.O.'s on pigeon husbandry.

 

1. I have NEVER had ybs in my lofts.

2. I don't treat birds with medication of any sort. (exception is PMV Vaccination)

3. I have treated birds in the past for Canker/Worms.

4. It made not an IOTA of difference to the performance or overall health of the birds.

5. My motive is to have birds that are immune to General disease by NATURAL selection/constitution.

6. I am VERY close to having the type of birds described above.

7. IMO the men who treat blindly and en mass there whole team when 1 (ONE!) bird is sick are ruining their own pigeon's immune system.

8. Am happy with what and how a handle my birds and am the ONLY one i need to please.

9. YOU!! are the only one who needs to be happy with the way YOUR birds are treated/untreated.

 

10. MOST IMPORTANTLY!! Enjoy your hobby and don't get bogged down by other fancier's IDEA'S of how YOUR birds should be treated because it's MOSTLY their best GUESS!! as to what to do with under performing/sick birds.

 

The above is entirely JMO, and in my garden that's the only Opinion that counts. Have a great weekend and enjoy your racing.

[Delboy]

simple dell you must vaccinate every single bird in the loft on the same day dell i had the same problem for years m8 dont jag birds in the nest you in fect your oldbirds every time you do then you spread it back to your vaccinated yb its a never ending circle if you keep vaccinateing believe me m8

 

Walter, ive said it before,my ybs were vaccinated very early and had no contact with each other for 3 weeks so this doesnt add up.They get the YBS at the same time every year regardless of when I mate up or wean them?? I understand everything your saying m8 and take it on board BUT a few things dont add up to me.Im a long time in this game and am open to any new knowledge thats available so I will definately vaccinate all my ybs at the same time next year, fingers crossed but im not totally convinced yet lol. ATB

[walterboswell59]

all i want fanciers to do is vaccinate there birds the way and when they were taught and most of there problems and losses would stop john the way the maff showed us everyone at the same time and untill we go back to that we will all have problems it will never stop and its only a matter of time before we get it

[Delboy]

I have watched this thread and have read Most of if not all the posts. For what its worth these are M.O.'s on pigeon husbandry.

 

1. I have NEVER had ybs in my lofts.

2. I don't treat birds with medication of any sort. (exception is PMV Vaccination)

3. I have treated birds in the past for Canker/Worms.

4. It made not an IOTA of difference to the performance or overall health of the birds.

5. My motive is to have birds that are immune to General disease by NATURAL selection/constitution.

6. I am VERY close to having the type of birds described above.

7. IMO the men who treat blindly and en mass there whole team when 1 (ONE!) bird is sick are ruining their own pigeon's immune system.

8. Am happy with what and how a handle my birds and am the ONLY one i need to please.

9. YOU!! are the only one who needs to be happy with the way YOUR birds are treated/untreated.

 

10. MOST IMPORTANTLY!! Enjoy your hobby and don't get bogged down by other fancier's IDEA'S of how YOUR birds should be treated because it's MOSTLY their best GUESS!! as to what to do with under performing/sick birds.

 

The above is entirely JMO, and in my garden that's the only Opinion that counts. Have a great weekend and enjoy your racing.

 

Im afraid your wrong on one point John, everybody gets YBS, its just unseen or mistaken for something else at times. Ive been to top lofts and they have said theyve never had it and ive pointed out YBS when I was there. Astounded and somewhat embarrassed, theyve all changed their mind on what is and what isnt signs of YBS.Im not being a smart azz m8, I just have studied it for many years. ATB

[walterboswell59]

Walter, ive said it before,my ybs were vaccinated very early and had no contact with each other for 3 weeks so this doesnt add up.They get the YBS at the same time every year regardless of when I mate up or wean them?? I understand everything your saying m8 and take it on board BUT a few things dont add up to me.Im a long time in this game and am open to any new knowledge thats available so I will definately vaccinate all my ybs at the same time next year, fingers crossed but im not totally convinced yet lol. ATB

try it and see m8 thats all i ask and as long as you dont come in contact with anyone elses birds that are vaccinated you wont get it thats why the problem allmost disapears when racing and jagging stops everybody says there doos looking great then as soon as there mixed with vaccinated birds it all starts again good luck m8

[Delboy]

Its a pity we had to vaccinate ybs before they were raced. It would be great to do the full team, obs and ybs in September when all racing was complete,and then keep them in. Then YBS would be finished

[JohnQuinn]

Im afraid your wrong on one point John, everybody gets YBS, its just unseen or mistaken for something else at times. Ive been to top lofts and they have said theyve never had it and ive pointed out YBS when I was there. Astounded and somewhat embarrassed, theyve all changed their mind on what is and what isnt signs of YBS.Im not being a smart azz m8, I just have studied it for many years. ATB

 

 

As i said Derek, these are JMO's, and i am content that whilst i get Yb's "going light" on me i have never had them retain full crops of food and the only time i have smelled a sourness from their beaks its been canker (due to stress) on the Yb's that are recently weaned into the section. Andrew Deans advised me many years ago to give the Yb's half a canker Tab when weaning to prevent them taking it and i followed this for a while with some degree of success as i noticed less or no Canker at this stage. However i believe it only Masks the weakness in those ones and they will go down when put under stress in racing. I am well enough schooled on YBS to satisfy myself that i haven't had it in my lofts and as stated am content with myself and my judgement. ATVB to you mate, John.

[Delboy]

Not all YBS sufferers retain corn in the crop, cheers.

[JohnQuinn]

Not all YBS sufferers retain corn in the crop, cheers.

 

Cheers Derek, but i think i'll carry on regardless