Vaccination

[sean75]

would i be ok to vac old birds with nobi vac when they are feeding yb around 15 days old ?

[Tony C]

If it says dont allow your pigeons mix with other pigeons for x amount of time after vaccination I wouldn't unless your going to vaccinate the youngsters at the same time.

[billt]

If it says dont allow your pigeons mix with other pigeons for x amount of time after vaccination I wouldn't unless your going to vaccinate the youngsters at the same time.

Surely Tony what they are saying is the birds aren't guaranteed immunity for x amount of time after injecting and not to mix with strangers, not loft mates certainly not their own youngsters

[Tony C]

Surely Tony what they are saying is the birds aren't guaranteed immunity for x amount of time after injecting and not to mix with strangers, not loft mates certainly not their own youngsters

 

I'm looking at it the other way. They say you cant show or race a pigeon for x amount of days after vaccination.............. is this because there's a possibility these recently vaccinated pigeons can become carriers for this interim time? I'm only assuming this so I stand to be corrected.

[billt]

I'm looking at it the other way. They say you cant show or race a pigeon for x amount of days after vaccination.............. is this because there's a possibility these recently vaccinated pigeons can become carriers for this interim time? I'm only assuming this so I stand to be corrected.

 

I think with all vaccinations it takes a few days for immunity to be effective, I don't think they are insinuating the birds could be carriers

[greenlands]

If the vaccine is not a live vaccine which it isn't (ie. Dead), surely there can't be carriers ??

[dwh]

If the vaccine is not a live vaccine which it isn't (ie. Dead), surely there can't be carriers ??

always understood this to be the case

[Guest IB]

The reason the 'recently vaccinated' birds have not to mix with others is that they are still not considered immune and could therefore still contact the disease from other birds.

 

I don't have a recent Nobilis leaflet. They have lumped different things together - e.g. initial vaccination should preferably take place 6 weeks before racing or showing, and before being used for mating.. Now is that 6 weeks before being used for mating? And does this apply only for a bird being vaccinated for the first time?

 

My own advice is to leave vaccination till after the youngsters have been shifted. My reason is that the antibodies will show up in the crop milk, and be transferred to the youngsters. Nobilis can be used on youngsters from 5 weeks of age. If you then tried to vaccinate your youngsters, when they'd been exposed to antibodies for the disease a few weeks earlier, the vaccine wouldn't take.