Offspring

[PATTY BHOY]

if crossing a blue hen with a grizzle cock what would the offsprings be?

[OLDYELLOW]

It all depends on the colour and pattern of the grizzle , but you will get blue bars and chequers and grizzles

[PATTY BHOY]

It all depends on the colour and pattern of the grizzle , but you will get blue bars and chequers and grizzles

thanx pal.

[yeboah]

if crossing a blue hen with a grizzle cock what would the offsprings be?

IGOT A GRIZZLE OF SAME PAIRING BUT SURE OTHER WAS A BLUE WILL CHECK .

[OLDYELLOW]

My preference is full colour to grizzle never grizzle to grizzle as the later will bred near whites = dilute grizzles , I prefer darker fuller coloured grizzles with less white

[yeboah]

My preference is full colour to grizzle never grizzle to grizzle as the later will bred near whites = dilute grizzles , I prefer darker fuller coloured grizzles with less white

Have bred some lovely grizzle's over the past two seasons ,but like the reds ,mealy's there life expectancy with the falcon are zilch

[OLDYELLOW]

Have bred some lovely grizzle's over the past two seasons ,but like the reds ,mealy's there life expectancy with the falcon are zilch

I find its usually the whiter ones go first dam shame but I like the grizzles so hopefully the majority I breed will have very little white on , but every now and again got to have a few whiter ones to keep breeding the grizzles

[victorious]

Have bred some lovely grizzle's over the past two seasons ,but like the reds ,mealy's there life expectancy with the falcon are zilch

 

quite true iam always losing good reds or getting them home hawked and i mean good reds not tubes,pity really as most good distance familys wer red pigeons and i find with a few reds in the loft the seem to be dominating the loft for colours although iam tryin to keep more dark coloured birds but its hard when the best birds in the loft are reds.

[victorious]

quite true iam always losing good reds or getting them home hawked and i mean good reds not tubes,pity really as most good distance familys wer red pigeons and i find with a few reds in the loft the seem to be dominating the loft for colours although iam tryin to keep more dark coloured birds but its hard when the best birds in the loft are reds.

[KEVIN ELLIOTT]

I PAIRD A B,WF COCK TO A GRIZZLE HEN THIS YEAR

1ST NEST LIGHT GRIZZLE AND A B,B

2ND NEST DARK GRIZZLE AND A CHEQ

[JohnQuinn]

Had a Grizzle Hen with a Dk Cheq Ck, got a Grizzle and a Blue from the nest.

 

Also a Grizzle Ck X Blue Cheq hen, i got 2 grizzles from that nest.

[OLDYELLOW]

Had a Grizzle Hen with a Dk Cheq Ck, got a Grizzle and a Blue from the nest.

 

Also a Grizzle Ck X Blue Cheq hen, i got 2 grizzles from that nest.

 

were you pleased at the Colouring John ???

[Guest ljb107]

My preference is full colour to grizzle never grizzle to grizzle as the later will bred near whites = dilute grizzles , I prefer darker fuller coloured grizzles with less white

 

I think what you are referring to is double factor grizzle (when you double it up using 2 grizzles). You can only dilute a colour as grizzle is a modifier. Hope that makes sense

[shugf2003]

This might give you an idea of what to pair to get colours you want

Pairing Young Birds Produced

 

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Cock X Hen Cocks Hens

 

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Blue X Blue Blue Blue

 

Blue X Mealy Mealy Blue

 

Blue X Blue Check Blue, Blue Check Blue, Blue Check

 

Blue X Red Mealy, Red Blue, Blue Check

 

Mealy X Blue Blue, Mealy Blue, Mealy

 

Mealy X Mealy Mealy Blue, Mealy

 

Mealy X Blue Check Mealy, Red, Blue, Blue Check Mealy, Red, Blue, Blue Check

 

Mealy X Red Mealy, Red Mealy, Red, Blue, Blue Check

 

Blue Check X Blue Blue, Blue Check Blue, Blue Check

 

Blue Check X Mealy Mealy, Red Blue, Blue Check

 

Blue Check X Blue Check Blue, Blue Ch Blue, Blue Ch

 

Blue Check X Red Mealy, Red Blue, Blue Check

 

Red X Blue Blue, Blue Check, Mealy, Red Blue, Blue Check, Mealy, Red

 

Red X Mealy Mealy, Red Mealy, Red, Blue, Blue Check

 

Red X Blue Check Blue, Blue Check, Mealy, Red Blue, Blue Check, Mealy, Red

 

Red X Red Mealy, Red Mealy, Red, Blue, Blue Check

 

 

Reference: Squills 2002. International Year Book.

[shugf2003]

Or check out Ron Huntley's Rare Color Homing Pigeons

[shugf2003]

colour gene in pigeons. The cock birds have two colour genes but the hen only has one so therefore straight away we can make the statement that ‘The colour of a hen is what you see is what you get’ providing there are no colour modifiers involved. The cock bird on the other hand carries an additional gene to the one that you can see, but will always be the same as or lower than the one you can see, because if it were greater then that would be the colour of the pigeon. Nature has helped us to a certain extent in as far as there are only three colours these are Red (BA) Blue (+) and Brown ( and there is an order of dominance. Think of a ladder, which you can go down but not go up. Study of the genetics has established that there is a dominant and recessive colour to wild type (+). Yes wild type is Blue (+) Red (BA) is dominant to wild type and Brown ( is recessive. What this means is that two Browns can produce nothing but Browns or its dilute Khaki (if the cock is carrying Khaki). Whereas, Blues can produce not only Blues or their dilute Silver, but also Brown’s and Khaki’s but not Reds ie. Browns are down the ladder but Reds are up the ladder. On the other hand Reds can produce Reds, Blues and Browns or any of there dilutes because they are all down the ladder. There are also sex-linked dilatants on the same gene but at different loci (location), which are Dilution (d), Pale (dp) and Reduced ® all recessive to wild type. I am not going to over complicate the issue so therefore will only deal with one of these, which is dilution (d). For the observant ones amongst you will have already noticed that the Dominate colours use Capital Letters, Wild type is the + symbol and recessive colours uses lower case letters. For the record also on the sex linked gene appears the Almond gene but not to over complicate this short paper we will ignore for now.

 

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[lanarkshire lad]

Have bred some lovely grizzle's over the past two seasons ,but like the reds ,mealy's there life expectancy with the falcon are zilch

Do you think its true that the falcon will take the lighter coloured ones first?? I never thought there was any truth in it.

[andy Burgess]

Do you think its true that the falcon will take the lighter coloured ones first?? I never thought there was any truth in it.

heres my opinion (for what it,s worth) they will pick out any colour if it stands out from the others , making it easier to focus on as a target . for example we had a mealy ,2 reds and 2 whites among the race team of mainly blues and blue chec,s ........... the "coloureds" are no longer here . we also had a "gay pied" amongst the team of whites we have ...... that was taken by the hawk from the house roof whilst sitting surrounded by whites. .

[WHITTY]

I STAY 5 HUNDRED YARDS FROM ONE PERCYS NEST AND TWO MILES FROM ANOTHER I DONT THINK THAT THEY GO AFTER CERTAIN COLOURS

BUT THEY DO GO AFTER A BIRD THAT BREAKS FROM THE BATCH. HEN SPARROW HAWKS ARE OPERTUNISTS THEY TAKE ANY COLOUR OR SIZE.

THIS HAS BEEN MY OBSERVATION OVER THE YEARS. I HAVE REDS MEALIES AND PIEDS THE BIRDS I HAVE LOST TO PERCY HAVE BEEN

MAINLY BLUES. IN CONCLUSION I MUST SAY WHEN THEY ARE HUNGRY THEY WILL TAKE ANYTHING CHEERS

[Guest jim lad]

we,ve been hit by the perigrine and sparrow hawk quite often over the years and they dont care what colour the pigeon is the perigrine takes the 1 that splits from the batch usualy a fat 1 just my xperience

[JohnQuinn]

were you pleased at the Colouring John ???

 

Just catching up Mark. Aye i was pleased enough with them. The blue from the hen is a beauty and the grizzle is like this.

[OLDYELLOW]

Just catching up Mark. Aye i was pleased enough with them. The blue from the hen is a beauty and the grizzle is like this.

very nice

[PATTY BHOY]

I STAY 5 HUNDRED YARDS FROM ONE PERCYS NEST AND TWO MILES FROM ANOTHER I DONT THINK THAT THEY GO AFTER CERTAIN COLOURS

BUT THEY DO GO AFTER A BIRD THAT BREAKS FROM THE BATCH. HEN SPARROW HAWKS ARE OPERTUNISTS THEY TAKE ANY COLOUR OR SIZE.

THIS HAS BEEN MY OBSERVATION OVER THE YEARS. I HAVE REDS MEALIES AND PIEDS THE BIRDS I HAVE LOST TO PERCY HAVE BEEN

MAINLY BLUES. IN CONCLUSION I MUST SAY WHEN THEY ARE HUNGRY THEY WILL TAKE ANYTHING CHEERS

agree :emoticon-0137-clapping:

[just ask me]

never knew there was such involved in colors

[Guest geordiejen]

the colouring in a bird is more thought of when you show fancy pigeons.i suppose you racing people prefere the bird that hits the loft first before thinking about the colour of it.grizzle is dominant and putting 2 grizzles together will only make the grizzle more lighter.as far as i know the only way to get a pure white bird without the bull eye is to breed grizzles to grizzles until the birtd looks white.