budgie Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Its a change of route every week Andy, at least down the west the pigeons will have a true line of flight. Bring the attached along to the meeting and dont forget what happened going down the West Route 2008.You know as well as me they wont come up through the centre and we have had fairly good racing going down the East Side over the last 3 years
alec guinness Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 got to be EAST but dropping MARLBOURGH would be a good move,possibly NEWBURY with the national.
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Its a change of route every week Andy, at least down the west the pigeons will have a true line of flight. Bring the attached along to the meeting and dont forget what happened going down the West Route 2008.You know as well as me they wont come up through the centre and we have had fairly good racing going down the East Side over the last 3 yearsHave posted this before but 2008 was not any worse for returns than going down the east since then. Jmo
novo10 Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 Its a change of route every week Andy, at least down the west the pigeons will have a true line of flight. Bring the attached along to the meeting and dont forget what happened going down the West Route 2008.You know as well as me they wont come up through the centre and we have had fairly good racing going down the East Side over the last 3 yearsandy what about lanarkshires results in nationals in 2008 when yous went west
harky Posted October 12, 2011 Report Posted October 12, 2011 great program andy but in my opinion marborough on the 2nd of june is toooo far toooo soon .Think your right, Andys only thinking of himself.lol
frank-123 Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 21St April Otterburn 80 mls28th April Otterburn 80mls5th May Sedgefeild 130 mls12th May Thrisk 150mls19th May Selby 185mls26th May Newark 225mls2nd June Marlborough 315mls (Duplicate with the SNFC)9th June Peterborough 270 mls (Yearling Special Duplication Race)16th June Eastbourne 390mls (Duplicate with the SNFC)23rd June Otterburn 80 mls (Comeback)30th June Ypres 445 mls (Duplicate with the SNFC) Young Birds commencing last week in July 28th July Otterburn 80mls4th August Otterburn 80mls11th August Hexham 90mls18th August Sedgefeild 130mls25th August Thrisk 150mls1st September Otterburn 80mlsIf you want to build a Team i think it is the road to go down forget changing routes it does the pigeons no good.See you at the meeting the Fed needs your support.With the above you only need one set of Doos .It helps the Fed and more importantly the Fancier. good race programme what about a come back race the same day as the first inland national just to keep the yearlings going ???still think we should bring the youngbird races forward to start in june as for the west route why do we never hear of the midland fed members returns apart from novo???
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 we used to have 12 old bird races lets get back to that and down the west.spot on john
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Its a change of route every week Andy, at least down the west the pigeons will have a true line of flight. Bring the attached along to the meeting and dont forget what happened going down the West Route 2008.You know as well as me they wont come up through the centre and we have had fairly good racing going down the East Side over the last 3 yearsANDY you had one of the best sesons that year wining 4 races and good returns as you said whe got of to a bad start with 4 weeks of east winds and the only bad race you had was cheltingham not for returns but time so why the big chaneg
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 That can happen anywhere, Lanarkshire have had good racing from otterburn. Otterburn is the only race point that has been a success for Lanarkshire, all the other race points down the east have been poor, East reasons for bad racing. Clashing . Hawks. Pennines. Airports. Military aircraft bases. Menwith Hill. Different line of flight each week West problems for bad racing. Hawks which possibly is still that little bit more populated than the east.
duncandoo Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 i cannot beleive that you are arguing over the probable causes of going west everybody should realise that most of your birds have never been down the west and it will take a season or two for them to sort themselves out.i posted before that if you are going to go down the west route again,i think that you have to start with your young birds,and the following season you will have good racing with your yearlings.the lanarkshire fed agreeing to go down the east for three years chapped the west route on the head
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Otterburn is the only race point that has been a success for Lanarkshire, all the other race points down the east have been poor, East reasons for bad racing. Clashing . Hawks. Pennines. Airports. Military aircraft bases. Menwith Hill. Different line of flight each week West problems for bad racing. Hawks which possibly is still that little bit more populated than the east.the hawks are part and parcel of our sport now to me the only true rout for flying doos is west and if pep think thay dont get as much probs down the east thare hiding behind the facts that its not the hawks is the same old story of 3 years breeding of doos thats not whent by 250ml young birds 100ml yearlings 250ml then breed of them againg gives 3 genarations of doos not over 250ml to me this is the biggest problem not whare whe race but how 80% of lanarkshire members race and breed thare doos just look at other feds the east boys hamper thare young birds and yearlings out and if you think it is because thay dont get hit with hawks or in a better area your out of your minds just look at the amout of young birds lost each year and yearlings in lanarkshire this tells me its the nock on afect of the 3 years breeding of doos thats not whent by 250ml and cant go by 250ml year after year pouting on rings of sub standerd doos just to get the rings full whe should be looking in the lofts to solve the problem am not saying i have grait doos but wot am saing is thay have been tested to the max yearlings to the coast and any old birds x the pond i cannot beleive that you are arguing over the probable causes of going west everybody should realise that most of your birds have never been down the west and it will take a season or two for them to sort themselves out.i posted before that if you are going to go down the west route again,i think that you have to start with your young birds,and the following season you will have good racing with your yearlings.the lanarkshire fed agreeing to go down the east for three years chapped the west route on the headold birds will doo the west no probs
clockman Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 Your right Tam we get hammered every year down the east with our y/birds and its the same year in year out,
tyson Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 midlothian flew the west route this year we got to 180mls and had good returns the only problem we had was the bloody weather hope they stick with it for the old birds next year
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 midlothian flew the west route this year we got to 180mls and had good returns the only problem we had was the bloody weather hope they stick with it for the old birds next year Can you tell us Peter why Midlothian in the east decided to try going down the west again??? ThanksGareth
tyson Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 hi gareth the reason we tryed the west route was to try and avoid the losses when you hit the bermuda triangle of the north east olso to avoid the clashing with the english feds coming down as for hawks they are all over the place one thing that most fanciers noticed was if any youngbirds were missing they were there next morning most members I have spoken to are saying that they have more youngbirds left than on the east route in my opinoin the west route is the truist route into scotland as I have said forget about the hawks they are everywhere think about a route that is going to get your birds home and avoid clashing
tyson Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 one thing I would like to see is all the scottish fds back down the old route and get back to the old race points in france ie avaranches rennes etc cant see it happening as to many think of there overfly instead of the welfare of there birds
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 hi gareth the reason we tryed the west route was to try and avoid the losses when you hit the bermuda triangle of the north east olso to avoid the clashing with the english feds coming down as for hawks they are all over the place one thing that most fanciers noticed was if any youngbirds were missing they were there next morning most members I have spoken to are saying that they have more youngbirds left than on the east route in my opinoin the west route is the truist route into scotland as I have said forget about the hawks they are everywhere think about a route that is going to get your birds home and avoid clashingThanks for your reply Would agree that at one time because of the hawks it was justified going down the east, but this can no longer be said so the sooner Lanarkshire get down their natural path of the west route the better.
Guest bigda Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 west route OLD BIRDSLockerbie 21st aprilCarlisle 28th Penrith 5 may Keswick 12may or Lancaster Kendal 19th may Preston repalce if suited Lancaster 26may Preston Preston 2jun Worcester 9th june Chelthenham 16 junecome back Penrith 23rd june Dorchester 30 june come back Penrith 7th july over sea, Arras 14th july YOUNG BIRD WEST Lockerbie 28th julyLockerbie 4augCarlisle 11augCarlisle 18th augLancaster 25augPenrith 1sepstafford amalgamation west, centre, and east.
tyson Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 do not go to keswick or kendal just asking for trouble if you go there
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 one thing I would like to see is all the scottish fds back down the old route and get back to the old race points in france ie avaranches rennes etc cant see it happening as to many think of there overfly instead of the welfare of there birdsnever a truer word been spoken on this site well said tyson
budgie Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) With another racing season over and dusted i must say racing in 2011 has been outstanding with the members of the Fed enjoying good competition and on the whole excellent returns.Why some are Hell Bent on further changes is way beyond belief.The biggest problems lies with the fanciers who canny see the Wid Fae the Trees and should look at themselves First. Edited October 13, 2011 by budgie
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 west route OLD BIRDSLockerbie 21st aprilCarlisle 28th Penrith 5 may Keswick 12may or Lancaster Kendal 19th may Preston repalce if suited Lancaster 26may Preston Preston 2jun Worcester 9th june Chelthenham 16 junecome back Penrith 23rd june Dorchester 30 june come back Penrith 7th july over sea, Arras 14th july YOUNG BIRD WEST Lockerbie 28th julyLockerbie 4augCarlisle 11augCarlisle 18th augLancaster 25augPenrith 1sepstafford amalgamation west, centre, and east.looking good big man
budgie Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 looking good big man.Only if you blind and not willing to review the Statistics over the last 4 years.
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 With another racing season over and dusted i must say racing in 2011 has been outstanding with the members of the Fed enjoying good competition and on the whole excellent returns.Why some are Hell Bent on further changes is way beyond belief.The biggest problems lies with the fanciers who canny see the Wid Fae the Trees and should look at themselves First.your riht andy with more record braking looses of men not been able to finsh the young bird or old bird program its amazing wot a littel bit of suckses brings gloting about another good seson but every one nos location money and an old head partner always helps dident se meny fancers who STAY in newmains wining the fed avreges up to 09 wonder how that is lol
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 13, 2011 Report Posted October 13, 2011 looking good big man.Only if you blind and not willing to review the Statistics over the last 4 years.statistics you have won the fed combin afreges 3 out the last 4 years when thares been a record bracking number of doos lost now i no why you dont whant to chang nothing to do with the welfair of the doos lol
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