Darnaway Posted August 18, 2013 Report Posted August 18, 2013 Because maybe - just maybe - our pigeons are not suffering from PiCB, but something simple but a temporarily crippling ailment called (for want of a better term) YBS ?
OLDYELLOW Posted August 18, 2013 Report Posted August 18, 2013 Down to basketing committee if there holding corn shouldn't be put in baskets simple as . Time they filled yb baskets up by fanciers lofts one at a time to limit contamination from other lofts would eliminate most of it .
Guest chad3646 Posted August 18, 2013 Report Posted August 18, 2013 Like a lot of others I have suffered with YBS in the past. And again like a lot of others I bought medicines and cures and treated the birds with everything going. Then I started to think about it and came to the following conclusions. If, as is believed, YBS is caused by a virus then there are four conclusions. 1) nothing can cure is but vaccination can prevent it. 2) antibiotics and medicines can treat the after effects of the disease but nothing else. 3)if it is a virus the birds can not have it a second time. 4) antibiotics and strong medicines ruin the birds' immune system and will leave you with even bigger problems.I do not get the disease these days and I do not buy preventitives or cures at all. I allow the loft to have a build up of dry droppings which helps to strengthen the immune system. By using the Bull System of breeding I found that certain cocks produced the disease in their young so I killed them. I only breed from winning pigeons so that the breeders are proven to be naturally healthy. When the youngsters are weaned off I am continually looking for weak birds and cull them quickly so that they will not cause problems for the others. My loft is designed to promote very good ventilation and the roof is constructed to create a chimney effect which eliminates repiritory problems. My birds are fed all they want without leaving food about and they have a low potein diet which I think is more natural. I check the birds droppings regularly with my microscope and treat for worms and canker as and when I need to do. I reared 40 birds this year and I have lost 3 racing and training up to now, which I reckon is way above average in most lofts, so something must be right.I hope this helps.could you explain that one owen they are fed all they want without leaving food
peterpau Posted September 9, 2013 Report Posted September 9, 2013 Can't help but think it is related to PMV from what the vet tells me and the best course of action I've heard is to vaccinate at 4 weeks of age and then use another vaccine a month later ie: Colombovac then Nobivac My birds had a single vaccine then came back from racing with YBS. So I went to the vet. Second vaccine due 25th of September. No good for this year but ?Other than that I'd give xerex a try if it don't work.
Guest chad3646 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Posted September 9, 2013 Down to basketing committee if there holding corn shouldn't be put in baskets simple as . Time they filled yb baskets up by fanciers lofts one at a time to limit contamination from other lofts would eliminate most of it . there would not be many pigeons going then
peterpau Posted September 25, 2013 Report Posted September 25, 2013 According to a top vet if you vaccinate for PMV, birds that have YBS it will cure it. Apparently he vaccinated on a daily basis till the bird recovered. Only what I've heard.
tyson Posted September 25, 2013 Report Posted September 25, 2013 we never heard of YBS till we started vaccinateing also I dont think the darkness system helps either depriveing young birds from natural light imo
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