frank-123 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 think you might be talking about john mcgarry frank he won the section d from eastbourne last year he stayed in camelon but was a member of laurieston club in fact his loft was further west than the man that's getting mentioned the now duncan hogg shambles martin
alec guinness Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 john there was someone flying in camelon last year in section d eastbourne 2010 75th open in essence you could have two birds come to the one village and both win there sections like delboy and stb both in kirkintilloch but one region e one region f when we split area's in our taxi business never do you use a street as a split you use railway lines ,postcode boundray,grass area's rivers and streams same here frank,my great m8 john harwood,on a good day i could hit a golf ball into his back garden from our bit, different sections section e and section f.
frank-123 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 delboy was always sect f asweel until they went into midland fed and became region e , alex guinness would be same hes now sect e and all the guys across the road from him are sect f , there are very few sect e members in kirkintilloch or around it all the rest are sect f that's mental what a crazy set up years ago and needing overhauled
frank-123 Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 so if my club decided on mass to join ayrshire fed all my club members would be in section f that is plain stupid who thought that up
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 Was you're members in the west section before they joined avonbridge ? 2 of them were Alan 1 joined after Slamannan club divided and now racein the West. Its been an ongoing thing for years though.Look at where Mulhern and Ogilvie lie in the fed. I dinnae get too bothered about it mind you.A lot of folk greet aboot Davie Elliot being further East than Avonbrig or Stirling,it wouldnae have mattered much last weekend PS are yous finished old birds for the year or ye gawn to defend the Clermont Crown??
alec guinness Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 so if my club decided on mass to join ayrshire fed all my club members would be in section f that is plain stupid who thought that up there is a rule in place frank year 2005 which covers most of this now,off to bed will look the rule up later.
AR Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 2 of them were Alan 1 joined after Slamannan club divided and now racein the West. Its been an ongoing thing for years though.Look at where Mulhern and Ogilvie lie in the fed. I dinnae get too bothered about it mind you.A lot of folk greet aboot Davie Elliot being further East than Avonbrig or Stirling,it wouldnae have mattered much last weekend PS are yous finished old birds for the year or ye gawn to defend the Clermont Crown??I'm gonnae send the same hen back again, training her hard this week so fingers crossed. What about yersel you're on a roll
Guest stb- Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 so if my club decided on mass to join ayrshire fed all my club members would be in section f that is plain stupid who thought that upi said that 2 you before ,, if for example blaz on here joined say glasgow fed club and he was allowed in then he would be section f glasgow renfrew and ayrshire used to be sect f lan mid and south lan sect e nor west almond valley etc sect d , but as fed boundries have been opened up due to dwindling clubs and taking members into feds from areas which were once 10 or 20 miles outside there boundry area its all changed now
Delboy Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 delboy was always sect f asweel until they went into midland fed and became region e , alex guinness would be same hes now sect e and all the guys across the road from him are sect f , there are very few sect e members in kirkintilloch or around it all the rest are sect f Myself and Hoody are in section E because we were not allowed back into the Glasgow fed.There has to be favourable and unfavourable positions in all sections.Glasgow area is favourable in sect F but unfavourable in sect E.Camelon is favourable in sect E but not in sect D . The longer fliers may have advantage in races up to 250 miles and then the further you go the shorter fliers have the advantage, it also helps the further east your loft is.
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 I'm gonnae send the same hen back again, training her hard this week so fingers crossed. What about yersel you're on a roll She was a cracker last year!!! I've three hens that were at Coldstream the day.Two of them are yearlings so I'm a wee bit iffy-but you showed it can be done last year.My two year old won the Huntingdon Open race in the club this year,shes off my John Ellis cock so thinking she'll be the boy-we can only try All the best anyway Alan Hope to see yer hen up there again
Delboy Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 there is a rule in place frank year 2005 which covers most of this now,off to bed will look the rule up later. Actually 2004, the section you were in at that time is the section you fly.All this came about because of Scott Gibson flying in sect D and E
AR Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 She was a cracker last year!!! I've three hens that were at Coldstream the day.Two of them are yearlings so I'm a wee bit iffy-but you showed it can be done last year.My two year old won the Huntingdon Open race in the club this year,shes off my John Ellis cock so thinking she'll be the boy-we can only try All the best anyway Alan Hope to see yer hen up there again Cheers lewis good luck to yersel
Guest stb- Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 Myself and Hoody are in section E because we were not allowed back into the Glasgow fed.There has to be favourable and unfavourable positions in all sections.Glasgow area is favourable in sect F but unfavourable in sect E.Camelon is favourable in sect E but not in sect D . The longer fliers may have advantage in races up to 250 miles and then the further you go the shorter fliers have the advantage, it also helps the further east your loft is. yes you became section e as soon as you joined the midland fed and with your sect being governed bye the fed your in or last one you were in the way the sects are you would have to get back into a sect f fed to be back in sect f , i also flew in the midland fed for a long time but still paid my shu fees through glasgow even if i didnt race there at times saved the section getting changed about , not sure but i think you will find there are sect f members a good bit east of here now with the boundries becoming bigger
Delboy Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 yes you became section e as soon as you joined the midland fed and with your sect being governed bye the fed your in or last one you were in the way the sects are you would have to get back into a sect f fed to be back in sect f , i also flew in the midland fed for a long time but still paid my shu fees through glasgow even if i didnt race there at times saved the section getting changed about , not sure but i think you will find there are sect f members a good bit east of here now with the boundries becoming bigger Yip, Geddes and co have ripped to P*** oot it
Rooster J. Cogburn Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 Yip, Geddes and co have ripped to P*** oot it What do you thinks the way forward for the Sections in the National Derek?? Simplify it into an East,Centre and West Job??
blaz Posted July 4, 2011 Report Posted July 4, 2011 their should be a clear map of scotland showing strict border line between secsions .if it cuts through any fed so be it. only my opinion and only my 2nd year. WELDONE TO ALL THE FANCIERS THAT TIMED IN FROM YPRES AND TO THEM THAT DID NOT TIME HOPE YOU DO NEXT YEAR
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted July 5, 2011 Report Posted July 5, 2011 john there was someone flying in camelon last year in section d eastbourne 2010 75th open in essence you could have two birds come to the one village and both win there sections like delboy and stb both in kirkintilloch but one region e one region f when we split area's in our taxi business never do you use a street as a split you use railway lines ,postcode boundray,grass area's rivers and streams This will need to be changed as all Kirkie and Milton boys rightful place to be is in Section E, Fanciers at the bottom end of section F are 50+ miles to the south west, hard enough for the Ayrshire guys without having to fly against fanciers in Milton of Campsie and Kirkintilloch.
lightning fast Posted July 5, 2011 Report Posted July 5, 2011 This will need to be changed as all Kirkie and Milton boys rightful place to be is in Section E, Fanciers at the bottom end of section F are 50+ miles to the south west, hard enough for the Ayrshire guys without having to fly against fanciers in Milton of Campsie and Kirkintilloch. So Should Stirling as its further west than Lanark
frank-123 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Posted July 5, 2011 going by council areaNorth Lanarkshire,South lanarkshire East Dumbartonshire and Glasgow city council REGION ERenfrewshire,Ayrshire west dumbartonshire Inverclyde REGION FFalkirk,Stirling clackmananshire and west lothian REGION D what do you think?
Delboy Posted July 5, 2011 Report Posted July 5, 2011 What do you thinks the way forward for the Sections in the National Derek?? Simplify it into an East,Centre and West Job?? Its been a pain in the *expletive removed* for the SNFC for years Lewis.It doesnt matter what you change, someone will benefit and someone wont.Thats why there wont be any changes to the existing sections, it will cause to much hassle.My thoughts are this, the sections have to be divided from south east to north west because thats the way the country lies, therefore sections would be West ( Ayrshire Renfrewshire down to Port Glasgow ) mid West (Hamilton down to Kirkintilloch and East Kilbride to Johnstone ) Mid section ( Newbiggin to Camelon Lesmahagow to Slammanan) Mid east ( East Calder to Stirling and West Lothian ) East ( As it is at present without Mid east ) South and North stay the same. So say this was implemented, you would now have folk complaining about not being in a good bit and vice versa so that is the reason nothing will or can change in the SNFC boundaries imo.
Delboy Posted July 5, 2011 Report Posted July 5, 2011 This will need to be changed as all Kirkie and Milton boys rightful place to be is in Section E, Fanciers at the bottom end of section F are 50+ miles to the south west, hard enough for the Ayrshire guys without having to fly against fanciers in Milton of Campsie and Kirkintilloch. This is my point exactly, you take Kirky area out of sect F and then you have Glasgow sitting in the best part of sect F. Do you then move them into sect E and so on, and so on
frank-123 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Posted July 5, 2011 This is my point exactly, you take Kirky area out of sect F and then you have Glasgow sitting in the best part of sect F. Do you then move them into sect E and so on, and so on North Lanarkshire,South lanarkshire East Dumbartonshire and Glasgow city council REGION Ewhatever council you pay your council tax to thats what section you fly in simple!!
Delboy Posted July 5, 2011 Report Posted July 5, 2011 North Lanarkshire,South lanarkshire East Dumbartonshire and Glasgow city council REGION Ewhatever council you pay your council tax to thats what section you fly in simple!! Frank, its not *expletive removed* simple, I wish it was.This has been a topic every year in the SNFC and if ye think about it, ye cant please everybody.If you start moving things about you will lose members and my feelings are, your better leaving things alone although, in sect E, the likes of Newbiggin in the long races and Denny in the short have a penalty kick on us.We have to grin and bare it im afraid.
frank-123 Posted July 5, 2011 Report Posted July 5, 2011 Frank, its not *expletive removed* simple, I wish it was.This has been a topic every year in the SNFC and if ye think about it, ye cant please everybody.If you start moving things about you will lose members and my feelings are, your better leaving things alone although, in sect E, the likes of Newbiggin in the long races and Denny in the short have a penalty kick on us.We have to grin and bare it im afraid. seems simple to me if north lanarkshire empty your bin region e is your section and if falkirk council empty your bin your in section d
Delboy Posted July 5, 2011 Report Posted July 5, 2011 THE FURTHER EAST AND SOUTH EAST YOU GO, THE EASIER IT IS IN YOUR SECTION. Thats a fact, no bull sh.. that you hear from guys that sit in these positions. Maybe we could learn something from the North of Scotland fed, who use a breaking point when working out their results. Could this be implemented into the SNFC??????Food for thought
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