Distance Team Building

December 27, 2011

only way to build a team is to stopp all your yearling at 300 miles. put them buy for the year .i know its tempting to try them further but you ll lose more than you ll get back . i know guys are timing in yearlings in from accross the water but how much birds do these fanciers keep ?

yep your right.

This is what we do also.

victorious · December 27, 2011

don't think it will ever be the same again
i think the racing is only going to be a yearling thing as they are the only daft bird that would come on as long as it ain't seen the bop to often, and it would only make it as good as its last race. the only saving grace would be to buy the stock pair from someone to breed from, as you could not wait 3 years to find out if the stock you had was good enough to produce, it would only waste yer time in the long run
have a look at the results and it will tell you the yearling, is coming home to race
and it might be its only race, it will win again. as the bop has them terrorized 2 and 3year old birds just don't do it now. don't take my word for this, just have a look at the results, not saying any thing about Boswells doos but i believe they where yearling's, good to get, but will be surprised if they make the clock next year,

very very good points here and from what i see in this country he is bang on, this has happened here for the last 3/4 years as 500 hundred miles is the furthest we fly out of ireland i think the only thing would stop day yearlings is the extra 100 miles a good 600 mile race, and i was told by officals of the infc that they would never be goin any further than 500 miles due to heavy losses as the 500 has better returns, this 500 miles seems to suit the middle distance 10/12 hour pigeons and yearlings of course and with this new trend and systems it looks like its here to stay .

peter pandy · December 27, 2011

Thirty years ago when Johnny Foreigner started dumping his rubbish in the U.K. to put speed into our distance birds, all went well for a year or two, untill, after crossing in for a couple of years the long distance capabilities of our once established families disapeared. You may or may not agree with this statement however back then the likes of Robert Cormack, Eddie Newcombe and other well known distance men said Speed can not be crossed in and if it was it would be the ruin of our long distance heritage.

I recall reading a book where the author stated that pigeons with a wing beat of 9 per second would only be capable of 3 hours work. Pigeons with 8 per second would sustain flight for 8 hours. Birds with 7 per second would manage 15 hours and were your extreme distance racers when explaining the difference between success and failure regarding what your preferred racing requirments were. Feeding was also paramount to the time and effort expended.

The great Eddie Newcombe said to me, Peter in a distance race 45% were never bred for it 45% are not fit for it and you are only competing against 10%. Never were truer words ever spoken.

knoxjn · December 28, 2011

the feeding and preparation is totally different to your club doos in many cases you are writing off your club season to be successful over the channel you dont race them every week and you feed them on heavier mixes if you watch when you get sticky club races bad weather etc invariably these pigeons will be there lots of fanciers disregard them as they are seen as too slow and are always 15 mins behind but they are always there first rule of thumb is yearlings to the coast and see how the handle it not in a blow home but a hard shift if they come in and start chasing and fighting in the loft there is still lots left in the tank stop them dont be tempted but everyone is different the biggest thing patience

dal2 · December 28, 2011

the feeding and preparation is totally different to your club doos in many cases you are writing off your club season to be successful over the channel you dont race them every week and you feed them on heavier mixes if you watch when you get sticky club races bad weather etc invariably these pigeons will be there lots of fanciers disregard them as they are seen as too slow and are always 15 mins behind but they are always there first rule of thumb is yearlings to the coast and see how the handle it not in a blow home but a hard shift if they come in and start chasing and fighting in the loft there is still lots left in the tank stop them dont be tempted but everyone is different the biggest thing patience

Not for me

knoxjn · December 28, 2011

as i said everyone is different it worked for me your loft position can also play a huge part and also how many birds you can accomodate

December 28, 2011

I THINK ABOUT 3.OR 4.YEARS IF YOU ARE LUCKY :emoticon-0167-beer: :animatedpigeons:

peter pandy · December 28, 2011

BIGDA wrote on the 25th June that it looked like yearlings for the distance ?. As I have quite a few I thought I would take a look at this years results only up to the first 30 in each race over the pond. Ypres-8. Cleremont-6. Messac-zero. Tours-Zero. Mmmmmm!!