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[shotgun tim]

i only got my ets because of my work i was the first in my fed now there is 2 of us

[Blue Tooner]

Do you have differant rules in Scotland than we do in the RPRA as personally I cannot see any problem at all with the RPRA ruling it seems straight forward enough to me.

 

Same rules Pigeon Man, the problem is "within the confines of the loft or trapping system" . If the bird can turn round and fly off AFTER being clocked, how can it be called a trapping system? As I said before it doesn't matter to me one bit, but I know that this is whats causing a lot of moaning from a lot of fanciers. If the rules stated that the pigeon must be captive before being timed it would have saved a lot of arguments.

When is a trap not a trap? Hope you see my point?

cheers.

 

 

[PIGEON_MAN]

 

Same rules Pigeon Man, the problem is "within the confines of the loft or trapping system" . If the bird can turn round and fly off AFTER being clocked, how can it be called a trapping system? As I said before it doesn't matter to me one bit, but I know that this is whats causing a lot of moaning from a lot of fanciers. If the rules stated that the pigeon must be captive before being timed it would have saved a lot of arguments.

When is a trap not a trap? Hope you see my point?

cheers.

In one way I can see what you mean but the rules do not mention the bird at all,it just says that the attennae must be within the confines of the loft,to me this is straight forward enough so I just cant understand why people keep moaning about the rule,then again some will allways moan if it doesnt suit them.

 

 

[Blue Tooner]

 

Same rules Pigeon Man, the problem is "within the confines of the loft or trapping system" . If the bird can turn round and fly off AFTER being clocked, how can it be called a trapping system? As I said before it doesn't matter to me one bit, but I know that this is whats causing a lot of moaning from a lot of fanciers. If the rules stated that the pigeon must be captive before being timed it would have saved a lot of arguments.

When is a trap not a trap? Hope you see my point?

cheers.

In one way I can see what you mean but the rules do not mention the bird at all,it just says that the attennae must be within the confines of the loft,to me this is straight forward enough so I just cant understand why people keep moaning about the rule,then again some will allways moan if it doesnt suit them.

 

 

Yep, your right, some are only happy when they're moaning about something. My sister-in-law was reported to customer services at Morrisons last week for giving her 2 year old daughter a biscuit that hadn't been purchased in store whilst having a coffee in the coffee shop :-/ unbeleivable or what, it goes to show that it's not only pigeon fanciers that like to moan ;D ;D

[Roland]

it just p**es me off all the ets crap if you want it get it if you dont stop moaning and try harder to beat all the ets boys .just because the bird has a ets ring on it dosent make it fly any quicker . :(

 

Two things of fact... a pigeon on 1760 per minute can be a quarter of a mile behind and still trap and beat a manual 9Some a Manual Clocke HAS to fly faster, and No system as often quoted will make the bird fly faster!. Secondarily, a manual has to be held / contained to have the rubbe taken of. Then if released could  fly upon the roof. ET a bird can come back really hyped up and land on board...then go upon the roof for ten minutes.... race lost. With an ET it would have timed in... race once.

Seems like  - as I forecasted the ET brigade now want their cake and eat it.

I have the ET and will willingly give any manual clocker 17 seconds o the first bird and 3 seconds everyone there after. I am also more than happy to have my attenna INSIDE the loft so a bird is a captive. But then, I suppose I am just being fair minded and truthful... FEELING I have enough benefits and advantages without screwing the nut. Further still I am aware of the dissent, and want ALL to stay in the sport!

And no I don't want to hear crap scenario's of Everyone should have one... for several reasons that is not possible for many, and well we all know. Yes it is here, about time the ET brigade play fair and stopped screw the have Not's. But selfishness with prevail and the sport will suffer because of it, and then another lame crap excuse will be bleated 'They would have left anyway! Ok that should relay and make the conscience slep easy!

Yes it is a good thing, has many benefits, and the MANUAL clocker knows that better than anyone! Just time to stop rubbing it in I say!!!