Lanarkshire Race Program 2011 Proposal

[Guest bigda]

think its about time to have a change for the betterment of the doos the racing is getting harder proposal for old birds would be 2 kelso as never had many bad races from there so here goes 2 kelso s 2 otterburns the reason for this as all teams can go to the first 4 races then after that the yearling open 250 Leicester, then down the middle route at 50 mile increases till we hit Dorchester or blandford, then France and maybe Ypres the young bird race would be 3 kelso 2 otterburn 1 open hexham and come back otterburn, the reason for this change would be to starve the hawks that are in around the lake district which is only 135 mile from us, and that is where we are getting nailed, also to add when pigeons see north road birds coming downthrough the hills, they tend to think they are getting chased and they turn with them every one and there dog is racing down the east, as we have west windsmost of the year, we will not have to wait on the coastal fog and haar to clear giving us a better chance of a early lib what do you all think of theses proposals this is my honest opinion for the sake of the doos in the lanarkshire

[tom corrie]

think its about time to have a change for the betterment of the doos the racing is getting harder proposal for old birds would be 2 kelso as never had many bad races from there so here goes 2 kelso s 2 otterburns the reason for this as all teams can go to the first 4 races then after that the yearling open 250 Leicester, then down the middle route at 50 mile increases till we hit Dorchester or blandford, then France and maybe Ypres the young bird race would be 3 kelso 2 otterburn 1 open hexham and come back otterburn, the reason for this change would be to starve the hawks that are in around the lake district which is only 135 mile from us, and that is where we are getting nailed, also to add when pigeons see north road birds coming downthrough the hills, they tend to think they are getting chased and they turn with them every one and there dog is racing down the east, as we have west windsmost of the year, we will not have to wait on the coastal fog and haar to clear giving us a better chance of a early lib what do you all think of theses proposals this is my honest opinion for the sake of the doos in the lanarkshire

 

 

I would go along with that

[Guest bigda]

thanks tom, to your reply not trying to undermined

any races but think, if we use the said races we will have a beter than average time to rebuild a family of birds, and if the returns where monitored then it could be the case where the problem lies

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE TRANSPORTER FULL..WE WILL NEED TO TRY SOMETHING../TOOSHY BOY..///

[JohnQuinn]

think its about time to have a change for the betterment of the doos the racing is getting harder proposal for old birds would be 2 kelso as never had many bad races from there so here goes 2 kelso s 2 otterburns the reason for this as all teams can go to the first 4 races then after that the yearling open 250 Leicester, then down the middle route at 50 mile increases till we hit Dorchester or blandford, then France and maybe Ypres the young bird race would be 3 kelso 2 otterburn 1 open hexham and come back otterburn, the reason for this change would be to starve the hawks that are in around the lake district which is only 135 mile from us, and that is where we are getting nailed, also to add when pigeons see north road birds coming downthrough the hills, they tend to think they are getting chased and they turn with them every one and there dog is racing down the east, as we have west windsmost of the year, we will not have to wait on the coastal fog and haar to clear giving us a better chance of a early lib what do you all think of theses proposals this is my honest opinion for the sake of the doos in the lanarkshire

 

Sorry Danny but i couldn't possibly support a return to Kelso, my birds ALL go to the first 5 races as it is, coming back 20mls will imo, not help the doos one little bit as far as getting them ready for the last 6 races is concerned. We raced our first race from Carlisle in 1981, 82mls to me, we should be starting at 100mls these days and its an insult to the doos thinking this is too far to start off with.

The Fife boys got slaughtered from Kelso the week we were at Consett, proving the distance of the race has NO bearing on the outcome of it. To change the program when we don't even KNOW whats the cause of bad races, is crazy and will only add to the confusion WHEN we the next bad race arrives.

If we concentrated on finding out exactly what was causing it, we would be able to take steps to prevent it whether it be changing a race program or whatever else the evidence tells us to do, but change for change sake is only gonna hold us back further. JMO's

[Guest bigda]

Sorry Danny but i couldn't possibly support a return to Kelso, my birds ALL go to the first 5 races as it is, coming back 20mls will imo, not help the doos one little bit as far as getting them ready for the last 6 races is concerned. We raced our first race from Carlisle in 1981, 82mls to me, we should be starting at 100mls these days and its an insult to the doos thinking this is too far to start off with.

The Fife boys got slaughtered from Kelso the week we were at Consett, proving the distance of the race has NO bearing on the outcome of it. To change the program when we don't even KNOW whats the cause of bad races, is crazy and will only add to the confusion WHEN we the next bad race arrives.

If we concentrated on finding out exactly what was causing it, we would be able to take steps to prevent it whether it be changing a race program or whatever else the evidence tells us to do, but change for change sake is only gonna hold us back further. JMO's

John i have stated where the problem lies the first races are there to get the best possible returns then all the old birds are then on there own from 250 mile out now that to me is safe reguarding we don't race near the bops breading ground and also the east if this dose not come about then the fed will be finished in a year 2 there will be plenty on distance races for the few members that send i have hoped there would be 4 races from 250 out to 450 in land and 1 500 from France with the lanarkshre as thats who we are we have our own transporter and don't need any other carlisle has been a grave yard as it is near where the hawks are at

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my proposals ain't about distance its about getting birds home before they cross the border and they are fit enough to do so for the fancy this fed is for both middle distance racing mainly there are other feds offering further out at any given week

[duncandoo]

danny the only answer to the problems that we have,is to keep the birds in for a year as has been suggested before on this forum. if we all done this, the slaughter of perigrens would be legally massive,the r.s.p.b would sh** there pants if the pigeon fraternity would agree to this. hawks would die in there thousands, there would be no breeding at all next year,lord haw haws grouse and pheasant shoot would be cancelled,no birds at all in the bird sanctuarys for the twitchers to see, the damage to hawks would be huge it would take years for them to recover,and then we would have some say in what happens,with the threat of, if it ever comes to the levels that we are at now, then we will not hesitate to repeat this action again

[Guest bigda]

yes totally agree there Duncan if we stop feeding the bop then the landowners will take notice to

and as you say there Will be no grouse and the rspb will have to reintroduce it as well as ducks pheasant, lapwings, skylark the federation should ask all pigeon men to keep there birds in all winter

[geordie1234]

has the rpra never asked to meet with the rspb to sort this out or are they just blatanly not giving a f*** about us

[sammy]

start racing first weekend in may as both percy and sparra hen are sitting ,racing starts at 100 mile mark and increases 50 mile per week so race programme 100,150,200,250,300,350,350,400 450 ,500 come the end of june racing for old birds is finished percys eggs just hatching and she starving and everone has had a perfect old bird season ,sammy as it is

[Guest bigda]

yes, thanks for your reply Sammy, and then it would also be great to have Sunday special latebred races,

[Guest bigda]

spoke with about 7 guys in the lanarkshire last night and they are of the opinion that the proposal is a good one, and they say they would support it, i will speak with a few more on Wednesday don't think i will have much problems from the motherwell lads as they are wanting away from the east route, any how and they have had great flying records down the west to middle route, so basically if we get out of the killing zone, area a 40 mile south but i prefer we have at lest 80mile from the solway on route for home, to thin the batch out, any radius of the solway is bad news and don't lib any birds near there we might survive for another year or 2

[Rebus]

Otterburn area is one of the worst areas for Perigrine attacks.

[Guest bigda]

Otterburn area is one of the worst areas for Perigrine attacks.

 

 

think that could be controled with a few rocket before liberation and there are not as many valeys to ambush the birds as there are down near the lakes and moffat

[jocky]

DOWN THE WEST :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Chris Little]

Cumbria / Lake District has the highest population of peregrines in Europe..... amazes me why some want to race the west routes.... my fed included

[Guest bigda]

Cumbria / Lake District has the highest population of peregrines in Europe..... amazes me why some want to race the west routes.... my fed included

 

 

glad you brought this up Chris as i don't think half the lanarkshire fed believes us, as where not to let doos up, they all must think it will no happen to them, this is serious stuff here and if we don't pull together there will be no fed and no racing anywhere in Scotland we are the last band of renegades

trying to hold out but no listening to what the real story is

[Delboy]

DOWN THE WEST :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

 

If you want to fly down the west you will have to deal with the *expletive removed* air bandits down the M74, first. The guys in the solway should be doing the same down to about Kendal

[Guest bigda]

If you want to fly down the west you will have to deal with the *expletive removed* air bandits down the M74, first. The guys in the solway should be doing the same down to about Kendal

 

 

yes think there need to be some sort of committee, with oaths formed and severe punishments for grasses

[frank-123]

yes think there need to be some sort of committee, with oaths formed and severe punishments for grasses

 

just need you to do your own job

as for oaths and punishments ye canny get in you kick with the left

[Guest bigda]

just need you to do your own job

as for oaths and punishments ye canny get in you kick with the left

 

 

listen i am a son of dan

[frank-123]

listen i am a son of dan

 

aye but he disowned you when he seen you in the pram

[Delboy]

listen i am a son of dan

 

 

Aye Dan Ger

[Guest bigda]

can you imagine the speed of the peregrine using the west wind and the sun at its back our poor Buddy's have no chance at all

if i said son of tyre what would you say then

 

 

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[Delboy]

can you imagine the speed of the peregrine using the west wind and the sun at its back our poor Buddy's have no chance at all

if i said son of tyre what would you say then

 

 

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WTF Danny boy, keep that p/sh for Bellahoustan park