European Eagle Owls

[Guest challengerlofts]

I do always fancy to have an a European Eagle Owls. Just wonder, when you manage to tame it. Are they okay to let them out to fly for their exercise, how do you keep them & what kind of foods they like. Please share your experience, if you have one. Thanks.

[sapper756]

I do always fancy to have an a European Eagle Owls. Just wonder, when you manage to tame it. Are they okay to let them out to fly for their exercise, how do you keep them & what kind of foods they like. Please share your experience, if you have one. Thanks. http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

 

 

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[just ask me]

cant just let them out anywhere mate they will take a small dog they are by far the easiest bird to handle

[sapper756]

From The Times March 12, 2010

 

European eagle owl could eat dogs and cats, warn Wiltshire Police

Police have warned people not to approach a dangerous giant owl that could be hungry enough to attack and eat domestic pets.

 

The European eagle owl, which has a 2m (6ft) wingspan and is 1m tall, escaped from an enclosure in its owner’s back garden at Lower Stratton, near Swindon, Wiltshire, on Sunday.

 

A Wiltshire Police spokeswoman said: “The owner went into the enclosure and the owl flew at him. He ducked and the bird flew out.

 

“As it has been bred in captivity, the owl is unlikely to attack humans, but it could try to carry off a cat or small dog. If anyone spots the owl they should contact police and we will send an appropriate team with the right sort of equipment to catch it.” http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gifhttp://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

Edited August 14, 2010 by sapper756

[Guest Owen]

I doubt if you will get off first base if you try to release these owls. The RSPB have no intention in letting them live in the wild. White tailed eagles who will take big lambs with ease are Ok. Storks that died out in Britain 400/500 years ago, OK.

Red Kites that died out in the later middle ages in England, OK. Beavers that dieded out in Britain hundreds of years ago,OK.

Eagle Owls, which are not artificially introduced to the wild, NO. This is because they will control those lovely old falcons that the RSPB and their pals love so much. The stupid idiots have released 14 perigrines and an unknown number of goshawks in the valleys near here. And to make matters worse there is a female falcon and a youngster attacking the pigeons again. We have had peace and quite for most of the year but it seems that we are in for another spate of attacks.

[mick]

if you dont kow what your doing leave well alone for the simple reason your self or someone else will get injured if you dont know how to handle or look after the birds properly

[Guest challengerlofts]

I deeply appreciate it for your replies guys. Is there's any complain from farmers or from the owners of the dogs & cats that's their pets or livestocks has been taken when the Eagle Owls has been escaped.

 

As far as I am concerned, the Bird of Prey got most complaints not only from pigeon fanciers. But also, from songbird lovers.

[Guest challengerlofts]

 

Thanks for the picture. Good looking bird.

[Guest madpup]

wouldent listen to pigeon men mate,,, just go for it you will soon learn how to keep them ..

[Guest Owen]

You ask about complaints. There has been loads of complaints about the White tailed eagles because sheep farmers are sick of loosing healthy lambs. People who live near woodlands are loosing livestock to goshawks daily. This includes kittens and puppies. However nothing is done. European Eagle owls, if left alone will happily dine on mainly rabbits and other rodents.

the only time they will cause problems is if the rabbits are killed off by disease for example. When this happened in Sweden, the Owls took buzzards first but also took peregrines. The peregrine population dropped dramatically, in that area because they moved away rather than become food for owls. There is a film about all this which, I think was shown on BBC.

In regard to keeping them in captivity is concerned, they can be quite expensive to keep because of their diet and they eat a lot. My neighbour kept one, a young male, and coped with it easily. The only mishap was that a chicken got itself grabbed by the owl, which was teathered out in a pole at the time. The Owner could not get the chicken free and had to kill it and allow the owl to keep it. This particular owl was trained to the fist and the owner used to take it out on some derelect ground near here. I think keeping an Eagle Owl is simple enough but I think you would need to find out the finer details of what it needs before you got involved. I would be put off by the job of keeping it clean, the cost of keeping it and the difficulty in finding someone to look after it when I wanted to go on holiday. Besides this type of bird loves company and it would be cruel to keep it in isolation even for a short while. If you are ever near Ebbw Vale in South Wales there are quite a few kept at the site of the Garden Festival. The guy in charge there will tell you all you want to know and he will show you birds of all ages and both sexes.

[DOVEScot]

I used to fly a few hawks and the best thing to do is go along to your local falconry centre and get some tuition

Basically you get a hand reared encrypted bird that views you as the parent and you become it's feeder. If you feed a raptor excessively it will not fly as they have only one thing in mind to survive as its body weight comes down it instinct is to feed and multiply.

It will attack anything that comes near it or it's nest, I was at Kinross market that has a raptor display and a staffie which was off the lead ran up to the stand and the Harris hawk which was tethered attacked it

If you train them to feed only out your hand they will but I flew Harris Hawks that were trained to hunt fur, you will see raptors advertised as hand, fur or fur and feather or encrypted

I said a long time ago that we should fly them at liberation sites before our birds are released and in hot spot areas where hawks are attacking our birds

[Guest challengerlofts]

From The Times March 12, 2010

 

European eagle owl could eat dogs and cats, warn Wiltshire Police

Police have warned people not to approach a dangerous giant owl that could be hungry enough to attack and eat domestic pets.

 

The European eagle owl, which has a 2m (6ft) wingspan and is 1m tall, escaped from an enclosure in its owner’s back garden at Lower Stratton, near Swindon, Wiltshire, on Sunday.

 

A Wiltshire Police spokeswoman said: “The owner went into the enclosure and the owl flew at him. He ducked and the bird flew out.

 

“As it has been bred in captivity, the owl is unlikely to attack humans, but it could try to carry off a cat or small dog. If anyone spots the owl they should contact police and we will send an appropriate team with the right sort of equipment to catch it.â€

 

Hi sapper756! This is that I don't really get it. Contact the Police if anyone spots it. How about those hawks that almost everyday attacking the racing pigeons & songbirds, can we call as well the Police for sending an appropriate team with the right sort of equipment to catch it?

[Guest challengerlofts]

I used to fly a few hawks and the best thing to do is go along to your local falconry centre and get some tuition

Basically you get a hand reared encrypted bird that views you as the parent and you become it's feeder. If you feed a raptor excessively it will not fly as they have only one thing in mind to survive as its body weight comes down it instinct is to feed and multiply.

It will attack anything that comes near it or it's nest, I was at Kinross market that has a raptor display and a staffie which was off the lead ran up to the stand and the Harris hawk which was tethered attacked it

If you train them to feed only out your hand they will but I flew Harris Hawks that were trained to hunt fur, you will see raptors advertised as hand, fur or fur and feather or encrypted

I said a long time ago that we should fly them at liberation sites before our birds are released and in hot spot areas where hawks are attacking our birds

 

Hi DOVEScot! Good looking bird m8. Just wonder w/c one easier to look after, the male or the female eagle owl.

[Delboy]

Nice bird Duncan m8, I, and im sure, plenty of others, would give you a few quid to start breeding them

[Guest bigda]

yep £10 per member and should one escape have rings on and radio transmiters so the rspb, should be able to return to you should it ever get lost, 50,000 members

at a £10 per year

[Roland]

Dovescote I too reckon that they should be flown before Liberation.

[airdrie2]

iam sure duncan if you had one you would be flying it around your loft with the problems your having

[Guest challengerlofts]

I used to fly a few hawks and the best thing to do is go along to your local falconry centre and get some tuition

Basically you get a hand reared encrypted bird that views you as the parent and you become it's feeder. If you feed a raptor excessively it will not fly as they have only one thing in mind to survive as its body weight comes down it instinct is to feed and multiply.

It will attack anything that comes near it or it's nest, I was at Kinross market that has a raptor display and a staffie which was off the lead ran up to the stand and the Harris hawk which was tethered attacked it

If you train them to feed only out your hand they will but I flew Harris Hawks that were trained to hunt fur, you will see raptors advertised as hand, fur or fur and feather or encrypted

I said a long time ago that we should fly them at liberation sites before our birds are released and in hot spot areas where hawks are attacking our birds

 

Hi DOVEScot, can you please breed one for me. Thats the one i'm planing to have it this coming Blackpool Show Jan. 2011. Thanks

[DOVEScot]

Hi DOVEScot, can you please breed one for me. Thats the one i'm planing to have it this coming Blackpool Show Jan. 2011. Thanks

 

Hi Manny, I don't have time to keep them I just flew them on hunting days that you can book at most birds of prey centres, good luck if you go ahead it is really great fun and you can find a bird you like, personally I like Harris hawks for hunting days

To begin with, owls do not make very good pets. Beautiful, majestic and as awe-inspiring as they may be, in captivity they can be noisy, smelly and dirty and will need a lot of your time, care & attention. They require a regular, specialist diet, and in our opinion to be kept properly they need a large, purpose-built aviary which can be expensive to build and maintain.

Owls are imprinted so you want one that thinks you are the parent responsible for feeding them and teaching them how to hunt

[THE FIFER]

I used to fly a few hawks and the best thing to do is go along to your local falconry centre and get some tuition

Basically you get a hand reared encrypted bird that views you as the parent and you become it's feeder. If you feed a raptor excessively it will not fly as they have only one thing in mind to survive as its body weight comes down it instinct is to feed and multiply.

It will attack anything that comes near it or it's nest, I was at Kinross market that has a raptor display and a staffie which was off the lead ran up to the stand and the Harris hawk which was tethered attacked it

If you train them to feed only out your hand they will but I flew Harris Hawks that were trained to hunt fur, you will see raptors advertised as hand, fur or fur and feather or encrypted

I said a long time ago that we should fly them at liberation sites before our birds are released and in hot spot areas where hawks are attacking our birds

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nice one dunc, good photo

[DOVEScot]

Dovescote I too reckon that they should be flown before Liberation.

 

Aye Roland but you know how most pigeon men are they won't organise anything for themselves or pay for it. The RPRA and other governing bodies should be taking this on board but they are too sh!t scared of upsetting anyone other than their members and it is the same in most sports. It may surprise you that I have threw up a lot of good simple ideas in anything I am involved with only to be shot down as the higher archy wish they had thought of that so it lands on its *expletive removed*.

The problem we have on the site is that we are quite well scattered so funding something is harder, For instance we would have to fund owl keeping either around main liberation points or hot spots to keep the cost down or federations/governing bodies would have to take someone in the transport along with the birds or pay their expenses and that would take some doing.

For instance someone in Scotland could do the Scottish Liberation's which may be from English federations, travel around Scottish hot spots, you could adapt this for Scotland, England, Wales and Ireland, maybe a national owl liberation scheme having a network of falconers all over the UK and Ireland promoted at Blackpool, sanctioned by the RPRA, WHU, IHU, NPA and SHU and sponsored by them as well or expand it to Roland's Goose fat and Sammy's anti mating jackets

I wouls put £10 in the tin

[Roland]

Dovescote wrote' ..............It may surprise you that I have threw up a lot of good simple ideas in anything I am involved with only to be shot down as the higher archy wish they had thought of that so it lands on its *expletive removed*. ......

Doesn't suprise me at all Duncan.

 

When the RPRA did a survey, a 'Get back to the members' regards an extra £1 per year to have a 'P.R. Firm' with a built in 'Think tank' and a professional voice to handle the media, the backlash was so severe that it was quickly binned forthwith.

Another example was of course the P.O.P. campaign that some of us tried to get going, which was, devastated by the Pigeon members. I had threats and nastiness galore!, well beside threat left on answer phone etc. it was unreal!

Just think, there would have been a body fighting and HAVING a voice up and running now!

Many places giving discount of 10% for any member buying from the 'Suppliers' of feed and all and sundry. Granted there was the odd thing that the Membership wouldn't have been covered for.

Just put together the costs that have bee, and are laid at every fancier's door over the past 9 months, and still on going of course. Their £10 would have been repaid in heaps and bounds many folds... And a P.R. firm on board and up and running now! this remember was destined for many more concerns affected but the B.O.P. / Hawk / Rapture problem. Yes for many others were keen and wanting to get involved once the fundamental setting up of the P.O.B. was formatted.

But a year or more on and still the MEMBERS are still at loggerheads with each other. They are still whinging and moaning about the B.O.P etc. etc.

Without doubt Ego's squashing meriteous persons efforts leading to even more Apathy if possible, and more so next season and every season down the line.

[Roland]

May I also add, what the thicko's and their' Ego, and Limelight’s seekers demanded to be bantered and made public to all and Sundry! Yes, one the fact that there was a isolated farm holding that had Workers /Carers prepared to rear Eagle Owls and a program set up and in place to distribute these Eagle Owls where they would be doing most good.

Yet the above idiots, for there is no other label more fitting, was unhappy with that! They WANTED these persons Names bandied about on public domains! Then the addresses of the Holdings etc. These were the very ones casting innuendos and spouting ridiculous stupidities of what is right and proper1 Demanding an open and frank discussions of who persons were and when where these birds were to be released. Coupled with the slanderous, callous, sometime even evil, desires aimed and thrown at the very persons that wanted to, and WERE prepared to do this for the benefit of the very ones that now wanted their blood as well!

No wonder no one wants to put a name forward to help this fancy. Would cost their' family dear, and maybe even prison. Why? Well frankley just to satisfy their narrow-mindness bigots.

There now you have it, and for those that the cap fits may you wear it well in your shame. the RSPB need no more than you working for them, and THEIR CAUSES!

[Roland]

Now I’d urge you all to email Edd Milliband and your MP'S!

Why!!!? To tell him / them there is a great sorrow at the demise of the Country hedgerows. Concerns of the plights of our feathered friends at well over 18,000,000 die to feed Sparrow hawks alone! Nearly as many again are losing their’ lives to the B.O.P. such as the Peregrine and co. etc. Figures that no matter how spiced up are far too high a price to pay. Paying to see the demise of such lovely enjoyment in our back gardens and hedgerows!

Explain that country ALL life to valued via most of the general public! That it is a cost that our countryside needlessly pays to this RSPB moneymaking machine and many are quite rightly are taking a stand. Indeed many more are, and no doubt will each day in order to help and preserve. So this must be a vote winner in a much sensible restriction of the B.O.P. to be curtailed in order that ALL birds of ALL species have the right to live, and what’s more, us and our children, their’ children’s children will be able to see the wonders in birds life’s for real and not just in old films newsreels of the archives. And further with a little forethought will soon see what a good ‘Vote catcher’ this will indeed turn out to be. Another wagon to unite the masses of working and middle classes.

[JAS]

There was a programe on sky this morning Return of the Eagle Owl. Think it was a repete as it was about the pair in Yorkshire that bred 23 young.The fellow who was doing the programe is trying to prove that they were here in the 1800s. He had writen prove but the RSPB needed more prove. Liked the bit when he went to Holland where the rabbits died off the found hedgehog and BOP remains that they took.(bussard wings).