Ybs And Baytril

[Guest floydd31]

looking for some advice on the use of baytril for ybs guys. my birds were perfect up until i put them on local transporter 3 days ago flyin 2 hours a day. when they came back from trainin yesterday they were not intrested in trapin at all. went in loft this mornin and there was corn on 2 perches and 7 with green watery dropins. i now know i have ybs and my mate advised me 2 use baytril. do you,s advise me 2 use this or something else. personaly i think baytril is 2 strong for young birds. i have 77 young ones 37 on dark and it is these that are sick

[Guest mick bowler]

Nothing wrong with Baytril, its the fanciers that misuse it that is the problem.

[greenlands]

Give Baytril a miss mate,it has it's uses but looking at your problem not in this case.Withold all feed for at least 36 hrs.Put them on Belgamco available at Taylors choice,once the youngens are bouncing off the floor give them small amounts of depurative several times a day.DO NOT over fill them.Once they start to get their appitite start to build them up and back onto their usual feed.

http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/products/167307_belgica_belgamco.php

Lindsay..JMO.

[david]

Give Baytril a miss mate,it has it's uses but looking at your problem not in this case.Withold all feed for at least 36 hrs.Put them on Belgamco available at Taylors choice,once the youngens are bouncing off the floor give them small amounts of depurative several times a day.DO NOT over fill them.Once they start to get their appitite start to build them up and back onto their usual feed.

http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/products/167307_belgica_belgamco.php

Lindsay..JMO.

 

 

I have followed this routine with my sick youngsters 2 months ago and it worked wonders.(BELGAMCO) get some as soon as possible.

iT IS OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE THE FOOD IS KEPT BACK FOR THE ABOVE PERIOD OF TIME.

 

 

DAVID

[Guest floydd31]

i useed this method a few years ago for simlar problem depurative mixed with natural yougart and sprinkled with charcol dust and 4 in 1 in water. would this be better than using baytril. my birds look ok at minute but i am afraid of them going back on me. i think they picked something up in the gutter as there was a lot of stalings about on house roof this last week

[Guest strapper]

ages ago(for over a year) i would advise fanciers to use belgamco..those that used it are now convinced that its a good product to use.

 

under £20 and will save you a few head aches with youngbirds.

 

advertised in the bhw.

[Wiley]

floydd best bet in my opinion is 24 hours without food, and either electrolites or BILCO's powder Xerex(the best yb sickness treatment on the market for quick results and cheapness) and i would have either in the drinker for the next 72 hours, after 24 hours gradually increase them back onto food, or the other alternative if you want to go down the antibiotic route is giving them cosumix which would also clear any respiratory infections all the best

[smiler]

Give Baytril a miss mate,it has it's uses but looking at your problem not in this case.Withold all feed for at least 36 hrs.Put them on Belgamco available at Taylors choice,once the youngens are bouncing off the floor give them small amounts of depurative several times a day.DO NOT over fill them.Once they start to get their appitite start to build them up and back onto their usual feed.

http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/products/167307_belgica_belgamco.php

Lindsay..JMO.

 

 

hi mate greenlands is spot on , id give baytril a miss 2 iv used belgamco and its very good and i see Taylor's choice has a 15% discount on all belgica products

[Guest lenwadebob]

floydd best bet in my opinion is 24 hours without food, and either electrolites or BILCO's powder Xerex(the best yb sickness treatment on the market for quick results and cheapness) and i would have either in the drinker for the next 72 hours, after 24 hours gradually increase them back onto food, or the other alternative if you want to go down the antibiotic route is giving them cosumix which would also clear any respiratory infections all the best

 

 

Where can this be obtained, and what would be the recommended dose and for how long should it be administered.

[Guest strapper]

belgamco i use myself, heres some info

 

this can be obtained in the british homing world. from paul smith regency lofts

 

Belgamco (NEW)

Belgamco is a new alternative for the old 4 in 1 mix. (YOUNG BIRD SICKNESS).

 

This product is very effective against Streptococann, Staphylococcen, Enterococcen and a-specific infections of the digestive tract (intestines).

 

Symptoms:- For both old and young pigeons showing the following:- yellow and green droppings, losing weight and then dying.

 

Dose:-

1 5gr measure spoon for 1 litre of water for 6-10 consecutive days.

 

Available in:- 5gr Sachets and 80 gram tubs.

 

 

 

 

5gr Sachet - £1.50

80g Tub - £18.00

[Guest redlad24]

i had that a few weeks ago, yb holding corn and them droppings went to local vet, just asked would you know anything for them symptoms, he brought me out 3 sachets of sulphadimine sodium, 3days of 2 grams per litre, 2 days multivits then 3 days of 1 gram per litre, after 3rd day pigeons were coming back from deaths door, they are now in good shape, it only cost me 4 euro for the 3 sachets and still have 1 left, its an anti cocci as well and used for poultry and livestock

[REDCHEQHEN]

cosumix is a trimethoprim/sulpha mix

[Guest mick bowler]

Anyone tell me whats in Belgamco???

[Guest redlad24]

thats the big secret with all that stuff, they never give the ingredients, its prob some of that sulphadimine or something similar in which they are profiting by an enormous amount

[Guest mick bowler]

thats the big secret with all that stuff, they never give the ingredients, its prob some of that sulphadimine or something similar in which they are profiting by an enormous amount

 

 

I dont like to use anti-b's too often, but i would prefer to use them than other "super potions", at least you know what is going into your birds.

 

As i said must Anti-bs used on pigeons are ok, its the mis-use than isnt. But as i said before its horses for courses, use the appropriate medicine for the illness and dont just pee in the wind!!

[Wiley]

Where can this be obtained, and what would be the recommended dose and for how long should it be administered.

 

It is a recommended dose for 7-14 days, however for ybs sickness id only give it for 3 days, its alot less harsher then baytril, the source im afraid i couldnt tell you as i normally get mine from a batch when my friend orders his.

[Guest floydd31]

i gave the birds baytril 1ml to 2liters of water and light feed. birds are perfect after 3 days on this. dropings back to normal. will keep them on this for 2 more days

[Guest mick bowler]

i gave the birds baytril 1ml to 2liters of water and light feed. birds are perfect after 3 days on this. dropings back to normal. will keep them on this for 2 more days

 

 

Floyd keep them on it for 10 days if you can (min 7 days), but if they start to look off take them off straight away. You can add a probiotic to the water after day 5 (gemthepax, probac etc, or on the corn), to start buidling the good gut bacteria back up.

 

Glad your birds on the mend.

[BLACK W F]

Give Baytril a miss mate,it has it's uses but looking at your problem not in this case.Withold all feed for at least 36 hrs.Put them on Belgamco available at Taylors choice,once the youngens are bouncing off the floor give them small amounts of depurative several times a day.DO NOT over fill them.Once they start to get their appitite start to build them up and back onto their usual feed.

http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/products/167307_belgica_belgamco.php

Lindsay..JMO.

 

 

spot on thats what to use no0 need for baytrol

[Guest IB]

Floyd keep them on it for 10 days if you can (min 7 days), but if they start to look off take them off straight away. You can add a probiotic to the water after day 5 (gemthepax, probac etc, or on the corn), to start buidling the good gut bacteria back up.

 

Glad your birds on the mend.

 

Probably a waste of time giving a probiotic when birds are on antibiotic treatment, an antibiotic doesn't distinguish between good and bad bacteria, it will kill it too. Give the birds a few clear days after your antibiotic treatment ends (to rid the antibiotic from their bodies) then give a probiotic.

[Guest mick bowler]

Probably a waste of time giving a probiotic when birds are on antibiotic treatment, an antibiotic doesn't distinguish between good and bad bacteria, it will kill it too. Give the birds a few clear days after your antibiotic treatment ends (to rid the antibiotic from their bodies) then give a probiotic.

 

 

Thats the science of it, but it does work!

[Guest stb-]

I dont like to use anti-b's too often, but i would prefer to use them than other "super potions", at least you know what is going into your birds.

 

As i said must Anti-bs used on pigeons are ok, its the mis-use than isnt. But as i said before its horses for courses, use the appropriate medicine for the illness and dont just pee in the wind!!

ye can end up in a terrible mess Mick if ye pee in the wind