Snfc Transporters

[Delboy]

Does the forum members think the SNFC transporters are good enough for the countries premiere club ?

[ALF]

DID YOU READ MICK MCMURCHIE'S LETTER IN THE BHW LETTERS PAGE ABOUT THEM THIS WEEK????

[JohnQuinn]

Does the forum members think the SNFC transporters are good enough for the countries premiere club ?

The SNFC don't own any transporters, they borrow/rent from the federations. The convoyer doesn't have any complaints about it, so i would say, yes the transporter is good enough. jmo

[Guest bigda]

i think he is totally correct in what he said a clear roof in the full heat of the day will cook birds

but again the silence is deafening from the committee

[Delboy]

Aye, I agree with him. I dont think you should be pulling baskets out to get up corridor to water pigeons. Not good enough in the year 2010. Geraldy or similar is a must for the SNFC.

[Guest stevie-b]

they need to move into the 21st century asap

[Delboy]

i think he is totally correct in what he said a clear roof in the full heat of the day will cook birds

but again the silence is deafening from the committee

 

THE MEMBERS HAVE TO PUT LETTERS IN AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WILL DEAL WITH THEM.

[Guest bigda]

THE MEMBERS HAVE TO PUT LETTERS IN AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WILL DEAL WITH THEM.

 

 

a geraldy for the nat will cost £60.000 will take 90 baskets. the income from that will get you another with a few bird sales your first stop is a 7.5 ton self drive 28 birds per basket £3 per bird £7,560 £2,000 for fuel £560 wages £2000,up keep for truck

per race £3.000 saved per race 4 races = £12,000 profit

[Delboy]

The SNFC don't own any transporters, they borrow/rent from the federations. The convoyer doesn't have any complaints about it, so i would say, yes the transporter is good enough. jmo

 

The convoyer wont complain about the transporter, he built them

[WulDon]

a geraldy for the nat will cost £60.000 will take 90 baskets. the income from that will get you another with a few bird sales your first stop is a 7.5 ton self drive 28 birds per basket £3 per bird £7,560 £2,000 for fuel £560 wages £2000,up keep for truck

per race £3.000 saved per race 4 races = £12,000 profit

 

 

where do the other 2500 birds go at the inland races?

[blaz]

i don,t think transporter are up to scratch.if you look at some from down south they are top class.that said the conveyors do a grate job with what they have got

 

where do the other 2500 birds go at the inland races?

 

on the roof rack

[JohnQuinn]

The convoyer wont complain about the transporter, he built them

 

I'm certain if Kenny thought the thing wasn't fit for purpose, he wouldn't be long in saying so.

[Guest bigda]

where do the other 2500 birds go at the inland races?

 

 

the national scrap the middle distance races and leave that to the feds, you just go to the 600mile plus races after all you are in the minority where birds are concerned and thats what you all want aint it long distance races

[bullcock]

We have Thousands in the bank we could purchase one and see how it pans out and then another if all goes well, I think we would need 3 x 7.5ton Transporters rather than one large one.

 

But remember we are running at a loss every year and at the rate we are running we will have no money left to survive never mind buy ant Transporters.

If we really want to do this we need to stop the loss and create more profit, there are a few ways of doing this,

1 Raise funds with Sales (this reaps a good return but not the kind of cash we need.)

 

2 We spend the cash in the bank.

 

3 We up the subscriptions substantially ( which we would need to do anyway if we go with option 2)

 

4 we reduce our running costs Prize money,Trophies,Marking Stations & Transport hire.

 

5 All of the above toghether.

 

If we really want to have the best Transporters available we must change something.

[Delboy]

I'm certain if Kenny thought the thing wasn't fit for purpose, he wouldn't be long in saying so.

 

???? Strange one John, Im not asking for the convoyers opinion, im giving mine after 35 years of SNFC racing and 3 times a member of the SNFC committee.The watering system on any transporter is the most important thing and this system used by the SNFC is antiquated and draconian.I stated this at SNFC meetings .Never before has the SNFC settled for 2nd best. Do you ( as a new committee member )think that our means of travel are the very best available ? If the answer is no, then please do something about it.We have money in the bank, use it before it is too late.Another thing, as you would have noticed at this years AGM, a transport committee was meant to be set up to look into ( a grant ) to help obtain a new transporter. I was meant to be on that committee as I have done the homework in getting the paperwork for a grant. I havent yet heard from any official regarding this.Why ? everybody knows the answer to this Get the transportation thing sorted , for us, the SNFC members.

[Delboy]

BULLCOCK, we spend 18 grand a year on secretarial fees etc and we have half the members we used to have. If you consider the secretary works , maybe 20 weeks of the year, that equates to £900 a week. Not a bad wage. Basically, we have around 1000 members paying £25 fees. £18 of that goes to paying the secretarys wages

[Guest bigda]

???? Strange one John, Im not asking for the convoyers opinion, im giving mine after 35 years of SNFC racing and 3 times a member of the SNFC committee.The watering system on any transporter is the most important thing and this system used by the SNFC is antiquated and draconian.I stated this at SNFC meetings .Never before has the SNFC settled for 2nd best. Do you ( as a new committee member )think that our means of travel are the very best available ? If the answer is no, then please do something about it.We have money in the bank, use it before it is too late.Another thing, as you would have noticed at this years AGM, a transport committee was meant to be set up to look into ( a grant ) to help obtain a new transporter. I was meant to be on that committee as I have done the homework in getting the paperwork for a grant. I havent yet heard from any official regarding this.Why ? everybody knows the answer to this Get the transportation thing sorted , for us, the SNFC members.

well done on your honest report deboy you are totaly right in what you are asking for

and the member would be very proud if that job was addressed quickly before

it starts costing membership or defra interference

[bullcock]

BULLCOCK, we spend 18 grand a year on secretarial fees etc and we have half the members we used to have. If you consider the secretary works , maybe 20 weeks of the year, that equates to £900 a week. Not a bad wage. Basically, we have around 1000 members paying £25 fees. £18 of that goes to paying the secretarys wages

 

Fair point Delboy but we can't do anything about that, the Secretary is employed fulltime.

If we want to spent the money in the bank we need to break even every year or go into debt.

P.S. do you know how much it would cost for a new 7.5 ton Geraldy ?

[Rebus]

The committee of the snfc did a feasabillity study on getting their own up to date transporter a few years ago and put it to the members at the AGM and it was overwhelmingly rejected by the members with the committee being slated in the BHW for even thinking of getting their own transporter,as for taking baskets out of the transporter at racepoints to help the airflow, Tom McEwan was doing this years ago for which he was praised and rightly so, however the men who do the same thing now dont seem to get any thanks.With regard to M.McMurchies letter in the BHW last week he is talking nonesense my birds go in a Geraldy transporter every week and they come home dehidrated also and Geraldy transporters DONT have air conditioning.

[Rebus]

BULLCOCK, we spend 18 grand a year on secretarial fees etc and we have half the members we used to have. If you consider the secretary works , maybe 20 weeks of the year, that equates to £900 a week. Not a bad wage. Basically, we have around 1000 members paying £25 fees. £18 of that goes to paying the secretarys wages

Money well spent the man does a first class job.

[novo10]

if mick mcmurchie had got a good one out of bovington would he still have complained i dont think so and when our pigeons came from bovington they were not dehydrated and our returns were ok so u cant blame the transporter

[Delboy]

Money well spent the man does a first class job.

Hes the best secretary weve had since June Paton but toooooo much money for what he does

 

ARE THE TRANSPORTERS THE BEST AVAILABLE????? NOOOO, ENOUGH SAID

[Rebus]

Hes the best secretary weve had since June Paton but toooooo much money for what he does

 

ARE THE TRANSPORTERS THE BEST AVAILABLE????? NOOOO, ENOUGH SAID

to much money for what he does, certainly not anyway did you make that point when you were on the committee, as for transporters what are the best available?

[Delboy]

to much money for what he does, certainly not anyway did you make that point when you were on the committee, as for transporters what are the best available?

 

Are you having a laugh Andy, behave yerself

[Guest stb-]

WE USED THESE SO CALLED OLD STYLE TRANSPORTER SINCE THE TRAINS STOPPED TAKING THEM , AND THERE WERE A FRACTION OF THE BIRDS LOST IN THEM COMPARED TO NOWADAYS , WITH ALL THE GERALDY STATE OF THE ART TRANSPORTERS , THE GERALDYS ARE LOOSING BIRDS BY THE 1000S JUST THE SAME SO THE PROBLEM IS A LOT MORE THAN TRANSPORTATION