CLASHING...Whats the answer

[Tony C]

What can be done?

 

I say put a paid official at EACH and EVERY racepoint.These persons to be employed by the unions and be accountable. He/she to have local knowledge of their racepoint (weather) and they will have the last word on ALL liberations. Between them they can gather line of flight details and coordinate libs to minimize clashing. Any feds found to have liberated pigeons outside of these official sites to be heavily fined and conveyors licence to be withdrawn.

 

Something has got to be done to address this problem.

 

Could this be workable?

 

Any other ideas?

[tony99]

not for every one to go up at the same time in the morning

[THE FIFER]

THIS PROBLEM OF CLASHING HAS GONE ON FOR A LONG TIME AND THE ONLY THING MOST FANCIERS WANT TO DO IS BREED MORE BIRDS WHICH JUST MAKES THE SITUATION WORSE, AND SOME DAY VERY SOON IT WILL FINNISH PIGEON RACING,

[rockinrick]

What can be done?

 

I say put a paid official at EACH and EVERY racepoint.These persons to be employed by the unions and be accountable. He/she to have local knowledge of their racepoint (weather) and they will have the last word on ALL liberations. Between them they can gather line of flight details and coordinate libs to minimize clashing. Any feds found to have liberated pigeons outside of these official sites to be heavily fined and conveyors licence to be withdrawn.

 

Something has got to be done to address this problem.

 

Could this be workable?

 

Any other ideas?

excellent idea i am all for it i would even say where do we send cash to start it lol , seriously i think it would work  .

 

[Guest TAMMY_1]

GOOD IDEA  - WILL NEVER HAPPEN

[schouwman71]

Good idea .but what about north roaders,they will still clash with south roaders,you cannot put a time limit on for both sides because no matter what they will meet up somewere along the line of flight,plus feds thet are behind you on race days somtimes catch the other feds up,our birds have been liberated early in the morning at 6.46 am and we have still had bad returns,so there is no clashing there.This saturday we let go at 8.15 we still had bad losses and not been seen again so whats the real answer behind losses.

[Chris Little]

Why do we all have to race young birds on a Saturday , an idea would be to spread all the races in the UK over the week, just a thought

[Guest bristolkev]

how about liberating south road pigeons on a saturday and north road pigeons on a sunday or vice versa...just a thought

[bewted]

everybody talks of yb loss's,clashing,breeding poor birds,etc,etc,etc,on and on it goes,year in,year out,,,,,,heard all excuses like this in early eighties,fanciers going on about it for years before my racing days,,,,,,,,BREED QUALITY NOT QUANTITY AND TRAIN THOROUGHLY AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE,AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE,,,,,

[Guest]

100% agree with you on the training Ted, ours have been out to 108 miles already and we don't start till the 19th of August

[SHAUN]

us fanicers in devon & cornwall have been putting up with clashing for the last 20 years that i no off, but there is more feds & amlalgamation flying the south road now them years ago. because there want to fly national & classic races which i,m all for. but we fly through the birds that go to the south east a them the birds that fly the to the midlands and that why i think we need a system something like corridor flying over the weekend, a bit of common sense and thats after the hawks problem down here and around the country.      

[jimmy white]

chris littles [just a thought] in my opinion would certainly worth thinking about , especialy in about the first 4 yb races

[Tony C]

GOOD IDEA  - WILL NEVER HAPPEN

 

 

So we'll carry on with race advisors, conveyors & bank balances deciding when our pigeons get liberated. The tried and tested way, not

[Guest]

its ok talking about it you have to go to your a.g.m all these things get talked about every year.

[Tony C]

The RPRA have a Future of the Sport Committee, wonder what they discuss over tiffin.

[THE FIFER]

I AGREE WITH UR QUALITY NOT QUANTITY BEWTED BUT LOSSES HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE, GOING BACK TO THE 60-70TS U BRED ABOUT 12 YOUNGSTERS AND U HAD AT LEASED 10 LEFT, AND U BRED YOUNGSTERS FOR FILLING UR OLD BIRD SPACES, AND YB RACING WAS MORE A TRAINING SPELL NOT LIKE TODAY ITS ALL COMPETITION, AND TO SEE WHO CAN HAVE THE BIGGEST TEAMS AWAY, IT WAS NEVER HEARD OFF THE TIMES I MENTION ANYBODY BREEDING 50 YB NEVER MIND 100, AND NOMS AND ACC WERE WON EVERY OTHER WEEK AS THEY NEW THEIR BIRDS NOT LIKE NOW WHEN ACC GO ON AND GET FLOWN FOR AT THE END OF THE SEASON BECAUSE NO ONE CAN PICK THEIR WINNERS NOW.

[Westwater Assassin]

Gone are the days of Breeding 12 -24 youngsters and being left with a good number at the end of the year.

 

The sport of Pigeon Racing is becoming harder each year and with high Young Bird losses being reported all over the country ! WHY ???

 

Clashing plays a major part in young bird losses and why ! Cause some narrow minded fanciers seem to think that pigeon racing should only be at weekend, granted have your old bird racing at the weekend but young birds should be given a fair chance to make it home.

 

Just imagine your feds first race with young birds, you've spent weeks preparing them BUT nothing will prepare them for 2000 pigeons flying towards them in the opposite direction ??

 

Hawks, Wires, The weather, Telephone masts will have have there fair share of birds each week but not nearly the amount that is lost.

 

Fanciers nowadays breed FAR to many birds (80 -100+) lets get real how can you look after that amount of birds correctly. We are all to blame, we all have a voice but one thing is for sure , Something NEEDS to be done and done fast if we are to ensure a future for Pigeon Racing in Scotland.

 

Keep the Chin up Boys !! theres always next week !!

[T_T]

Must admit, I'm breeding more youngsters to try and compete against the mob flyers. therefore the chance of losing more.  

I cannot in over fifty years of racing, remember heartache like this AND IT'S NOT ONLY THE YOUNGSTERS.

But you know, at the end of the day, no matter what we may think or what may be decided about alternatives , racing will ALWAYS be goverened by the weather.

[David Swain]

Our last two weeks of YB racing have given plenty of food for thought. Racing along the coast to the east from Littlehampton (under 80 miles)  with the Dorset Fed on Saturdays we have had only 50 per cent returns each week.

The weather has been fine, but in both races after the early batch we have seen nothing on the day and only one next day and had none reported except one which a bird-watcher reported as being killed by a hawk about 15 miles from home.

Compare this with two North Road races from Hullavington (about 60 miles) on Sundays with Dorchester, Weymouth and Portland fanciers where we have had 100 per cent returns on the day (although here again two have been injured) and most home within about an hour of the first. The weather certainly hasn't been a factor in our case. Makes you think doesn't it ?

[schouwman71]

i agree 100% with bewted,i have always had a small team of races and before i started working shifts i could beat most of the mob flyers in out region,but training is the most important start in there lifes,train wrong and yes you will loose them,train smart and wise and youl keep them,people keep too many youngsters and cannot treat them as they should and over crowd their lofts,but i must admit there as been some very poor returns this last 2 weeks so were are they all going,are any getting reported ? has anybody seen the frank shearder dvd theres a fancier on there who dusnt race his youngsters and they top the u.n.c as yearlings.makes you think dusnt it.

[swilcox]

Bristol Kev

 

Your suggestion is by far the easiest and most practical!!! The first 4 race weekends for youngbirds the RPRA make a rulling that South road pigeons fly on one day and north road pigeons fly on another, no reason at all why it couldnt work!!!!

 

The other thing we could have is a single national co-ordinator on race days!!!!

 

Stuart

[Tony C]

Just a thought whilst sitting here on me brains.  ;D Hows about having a cut of date for old bird racing, the following 3 weekends belong to Sth roaders, the next 3 weekends belong to Nth roaders then week 7 carry on as we do now. To give Sth roaders Saturday & Nth roaders Sundays is ok as long as the weather behaves itself.

[peter edwards]

look at this BHW LIB'S   eg wincanton 4 libs going to same area, BUCKINGHAM 5 libs going into south yorks  and so on WHY NOT AMALGATION THE FEDS THIS COULD STOP A LOT OF CLASHING

 

[Matthew]

i think the same as you peter thers 3 derbyshire feds and most of the time ther at the same racepoint, so why doesnt someone get ther heads togetaher and liberate them all togeather, as ther all coming in to a 40 mile radius

 

[speedbird]

great idea for south & north roaders to be let go on different days but what about birds that fly from east to west? north & south roads are fine if theres a wind from the south or north leaving one to fly high & others to fly low bit light aircraft alot of losses last weekend as no wind leaving all birds to be flying at same level think when to race programmes are agreed lib times should also be agreed to stop clashing & have a central area were controlers can ring if weather is bad & lib times are disrupted abit like air traffic control