Pricing a Pigeon

[Wiley]

the birds dont have to be expensive to bred the winners pigeonman is right,the best sales ive been too and you can pick up cheap quality pigeons especially if your starting up you can get a good stock team at entire clearence sales

[Guest Paulo]

Prices are stupid because some stupid people will pay them lol

 

Fair enough if you want the best you have to pay but not through your nose.

 

Besides like all things in life  you can chuck money at it but it does not always bring success

[Guest]

you will find 9/10 the best pigeons you get are the gift birds

[swilcox]

Your correct Paulo, people are paying through the nose for some pigeons only due to names and fads!!

 

Stuart

[PIGEON_MAN]

Your correct Paulo, people are paying through the nose for some pigeons only due to names and fads!!

 

AS YOU OBVIOUSLEY ARE A SELLER OF PIGEONS I MUST SAY THAT I ADMIRE YOU STUART FOR PUTTING THIS POSTING UP,

[stew 75]

mike lycett      won race from yelverton   at weekend  what was bird worth before race   what is it worth now  

[mark]

i have recently retiered and was thinking  of getting back into the pigeon racing.when i see the prices you guys are talking about , i think i will buy a rabbit    :'(

 

how can you encourage young people  to join our sport when you talk in £100s to buy a bird,? years ago you never had half the diseases you  see now yb sickness  losses at a all time high fancy pigeon mixes the list is never ending,

[PIGEON_MAN]

MARK,I THINK ITS BEEN SAID MANY TIMES THERE IS NO NEED TO PAY OUT HUNDREDS OF POUNDS TO BUY PIGEONS THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE ON HERE WHO WOULD WILLINGLEY HELP ANYBODY WHO WAS STARTING UP WITH BIRDS,A CLOCK AND MAYBE A BASKET AS WELL AS OTHER STUFF,AND AS FOR ALL THE FANCY MIXES EVEN THOSE ARE NOT A NECESSITY YOU CAN DO JUST AS WELL BUYING BEANS,BARLEY ETC OFF A FARM,

[Guest Paulo]

so what would you guys advice be to a novice interested in buying pigeons?

[PIGEON_MAN]

REALLY DEPENDS ON YA SELF THERE PAULO,IF YOU HAVE PLENTY OF  MONEY AND YOU WANT TO GO OUT AND SPEND IT ON EXPENSIVE PIGEONS WHICH YOU STILL MIGHT NOT HAVE ANY SUCCESS WITH,OR YOU COULD FIND OUT SOMEONE LOCAL WHO IS DOING ALL THE WINNING AND ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD BREED YOU SOME LATEBREDS AND TAKE IT FROM THERE,OR EVEN TAKE UP SOME OF THE OFFERS ON HERE FOR FREE LATEBREDS,THEN EVEN IF THEY DONT DO ANY GOOD AT LEAST YOU HAVN,T SPENT OUT 100,S OR IF YOU LIKE 1000,S OF POUNDS AND STILL GOT NO WHERE.

[Guest Paulo]

Cheers Tony, Have got some nice one's already off members of this forum and have got some of my dads old birds left but have just got a bit spare cash at the moment and was thinking of getting some new additions to the team. Its bewildering through the sheer amount of pigeons for sale and the vast difference in prices they are going for.

 

A lot of good pigeon men seem to sell their youngsters for £30 - £50 quid buit some people want to sell their youngsters for anywhere up to £100 quid. Really I suppose if you were to buy youngsters for over £75.00 then you are likely to flinch away from actually racing them and put them in the stockloft then they could be breeding crap after crap cause I suppose even the best of the best can breed rubbish.

 

Its hard to know who to get birds off after all a lot of the big studs don't seem to actually race do they?

[mark]

thats it paulo the more you pay it means nothing there are no guarantees, its like the more they cost you have a devine right to breed winners  if it was only that simple as to through money at it.

[Guest]

When I started in 2001 I bought in birds for hundreds of pounds and they bred me nothing. I was given birds by a good local fancier and one cock alone has bred me multiple prize winners including my combine winner this year. I did however pay £100 for a youngster at a fed sale of which the guy wanted back so I guessed it must be from quality.I raced her for the youngbird and yearling seasons for which she won numerous times. I then put her to stock and she has bred me winners every year so the £100 was worth it. If you are gonna pay good money I would rather go to a complete clearance sale as most fanciers tend not to sell their best or buy youngsters or latebreds off top quality stock and breed from them.

[mark]

thats it paulo the more you pay it means nothing there are no guarantees, its like the more they cost you have a devine right to breed winners  if it was only that simple as to through money at it.

[Guest Paulo]

My dad keeps telling me not to spend much money etc and not make the same mistakes he did when he first started. So as a compromise I'm going to buy a few young uns in next year to supplement my team I'm breeding myself. Then at least if I race them I can get some quickfeed as to if they are any good or not

[ribble]

your old mans right,paulo.

if i was you i would keep just racing birds (no stock).

after they had raced for 3 or 4 seasons you would know your best birds to breed from.

[Roland]

Better for New Comers to spend a little extra on Loft / Feed and training and learn the game for a season or two before spending out I believe. Go to a friend of a friend in a diferent area - so you won't be flying their birds against them - and have a few Latebreds. Cost a lot less, or many will present as a present, and they are born and bred in the pink. I don't mean gadging, I mean every other fancier knows a fanier that would rather do you a good turn tan a bad one. And you will pay a lot les off thebest than ,...

When you have done what you will do anyway, - for you will regadless of whom tells you what, then put together your' own program.

If your not doing fair after 3 seasons, it means an up hill battle, for most start by then to be noticed. You will need a honest friend...

Then spend a few quiddies, and remember that often it's the gift from genuine fanciers that are the real McCoys...

Some feather merchants are pretty straight too ... many of course likewise aren't neccessarily.

And take no notice of the Successful fancier that implies that you should do the same as 'Him'and purchase at great cost implying that everyone can afford it! Most can't and still are after a time sucessful in getting together a winning team.

Many brag they pay for a pair what takes most of us to earn in a year's wages.... They may  well do, but that in't what makes them sucessful, it's the management they are born with and learnt from.... Coupled with common sense and expierence.

[swilcox]

I know this sounds a little odd but if a novice contacts me i wont let him buy the expensive birds even if he wants them.

 

Stuart

[mark]

thats it let him spend a little to see if he stays in the sport if he does he can always come back for more,

[Roland]

I know that if I'd own Shegar... it wouldn't have won the Derby... a few rides on the beach at a £1 a time lol.

Unless spent time with a Fancier and learnt the trade.... But if that was / is the case then advice wouldn't be necessary I guess.