Diamond dave Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 Hi all, just wondered if anyone looks at the temperature before taking their birds training. We have had a couple of nice days this week but someone said to me they will wait for it to get a bit warmer before they start? D.D.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 i never train them too early if it is too cold, right enough if we had to wait for warm weather we would never get them going up here
Guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 if they are flying about loft for up to an hour at a time then personally i think you can train them the now ,how are they ever going to fly in cold weather if they are never trained in it
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 if they are flying about loft for up to an hour at a time then personally i think you can train them the now ,how are they ever going to fly in cold weather if they are never trained in it WHEN ARE OUR BIRDS EVER PUT UP IN COLD WEATHER
Guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 WHEN ARE OUR BIRDS EVER PUT UP IN COLD WEATHER every week ;) i forgot about the rain it must be raining
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 every week ;) i forgot about the rain it must be raining THAT WAS LAST YEAR
Guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 Going by experience of 1st year training OBs in March brilliant sunshine clear skies but temps around 8C ... not on, lost half my birds before they even saw a race basket. When the air is cold you think its cold till you start moving thro it ... then you ken what freezing cold is. Always reckon if I feel it comfortable to go about in short sleeves, or a summer-weight jacket, then its warm enough to begin training. And I always check temp, cloud cover, wind direction & speed, visibility at release point before setting off.
peterpau Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 I won't train till the temperature reaches double figures, or before April.
Guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 Didn't say it was wrong, Flyer. But I don't train pigeons to lose them. During winter my birds live in the cold and train in the cold; they fly out all winter long and are currently 'in training for training'. They are out 'open hole' 4 hours a day every day and today it was heavy rain with a west wind behind it. They are not forced to fly in it but choose to do so themselves and they even went away for a high level wander in it, when 'gives us our daily hawk' put in an appearance..
Guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 I won't train till the temperature reaches double figures, or before April. same here !!!
Flyer Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 bruno not having a go. i was just asking to all in general. being new to the sport i would like to know why people say not to train in the cold. i have 16 spare late breeds form last year i did not want to get rid of them (cull). but i was unable get them in the basket. but they fly around the house for a hour twice a day. a month ago i took them 15 miles away and let them go. took them a couple or hours the first day 30 mins the second and now it takes them on average 15-20 mins. so now instead of flying for 2 hours a day they only fly 1 hour an 20 mins. ive not lost none as yet. am i doing wrong ? would you call a 15 mile toss training?
barlbylofts Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 well put it this way if its to cold to train now and you leave it and it dont change before racing starts and there is a good chance of that do you not train or race ?
ALF Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 YOU COULD'NT TRAIN UP HERE JUST NOW AS THE WEATHER IS JUST TO UNPRDICTABLE AT THE MOMENT : : :
Guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 bruno not having a go. i was just asking to all in general. being new to the sport i would like to know why people say not to train in the cold. i have 16 spare late breeds form last year i did not want to get rid of them (cull). but i was unable get them in the basket. but they fly around the house for a hour twice a day. a month ago i took them 15 miles away and let them go. took them a couple or hours the first day 30 mins the second and now it takes them on average 15-20 mins. so now instead of flying for 2 hours a day they only fly 1 hour an 20 mins. ive not lost none as yet. am i doing wrong ? would you call a 15 mile toss training? I didn't take it as having a go, just a genuine is it right / wrong to do it question. You describe exactly what I see here, I have 5 latebreds that I can't get out of the sky, and like you I don't want to lose them. Members advise that latbreds generally go down if you start training before May (warmer weather). I have decided to go with that advice and will let them 'tour' till then. 15 miles is a training toss, and that's roughly what I'll be starting mine at. And no, I for one wouldn't say that you are doing wrong when the pigeons are coming OK they are responding to your management of them.. You must be picking the right days ... good luck with your birds for the coming season.
jimmy white Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 Hi all, just wondered if anyone looks at the temperature before taking their birds training. We have had a couple of nice days this week but someone said to me they will wait for it to get a bit warmer before they start? D.D. in my opinion i would wait till the temp is at least 13 degrees , but more to the point is how long can you keep a bird fit to win races i,e training in early march is a long way to end of july, in my opinion you can get 10 weeks of winning form for races up to 360 miles, but a couple of very short flies on a good day would do know harm,,,in other words its keeping the fuel in the tank for what you need them for
Guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 WHEN ARE OUR BIRDS EVER PUT UP IN COLD WEATHER noone is saying that our birds are put up in cold weather read ma post again
Guest Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 YOU COULD'NT TRAIN UP HERE JUST NOW AS THE WEATHER IS JUST TO UNPRDICTABLE AT THE MOMENT : : : well in hamilton it is
madmaxlofts Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 i like to wait until were well into double figers no point burning them out to soon
ALF Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 well in hamilton it is BETTER BELIEVE IT UP TO MY KNEES IN MUD EVERY TIME I WALK DOWN TO THE LOFT JUST NOW SO WOULDNAE BE WANTING TO TRAIN MY DOOS IN THIS WEATHER DAFTY :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest Vic Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 We train our birds to bring them into racing condition, so by training them in cold winds, you will not achieve the condition we are looking for. Vic.
Flyer Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 thanks bruno. where am still at a bit loss the birds spend less time in the air how will this burn them out
Guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Posted March 10, 2007 When you start training the birds generaly fly less at home and i aggree with the posts wait till a bit warmer as a rule but this year i have moved lofts so i have been taking them to about 5mls just to get them coming in the right direction and to try and get them used to the new loft position but if my birds stop off at the old one i might have to forget about old birds for this season but cold weather training early on will take the edge off them and to much out of them if you want them for the longer races
Guest Gareth Rankin Posted March 10, 2007 Report Posted March 10, 2007 I would have to agree with Jimmy and say 13c, i am sure the alot of the top Dutch and Belguims wont train until it's around 17c. Last year our 1st old bird race at the end of April was 6c it must have felt like -6c for the pigeons.
Guest Posted March 10, 2007 Report Posted March 10, 2007 I'm pretty pleased we start at the end of April, because in our first OB race a few years ago, we started nearer the beginning of the month and the birds were put up around 8:30am ... with frost on the ground, temp 9C. Wasn't pleasant for us watching for them and couldn't have been too pleasant for them flying in it; remarked at the time that I was glad I wasn't a pigeon because the operating temperature for your household fridge is between 0 and 5 degrees C, and these birds were flying 62 miles in temps that were not far above a fridge and you moving thro the air, or the air moving around you gives you the 'feels like' temperature many degrees below the actual; no many folk would spend an hour and a half walking around in a fridge, yet we expected our birds to fly in those same temperatures. Agree with others, 13C pleasant enough for man & beast.
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