cemetary Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 Just would like to say, the person who removed one of my ETS rings when the birds were getting tossed through the week, what the hell did you doo this for. The birds were at a training toss at Soutra, the bird that the ring was removed from was very late with a full crop and the ring removed from his leg. The wife is just getting into the hang of setting up the system for the arrivals from the training, and also the racing, when she discoverd that one was missing from the batch. A wee while later the cock returned enterd the hut onwhich the wife panicked when she never heard him bleep over the pad, she thought it was a stranger with very clean feet, and also a full crop of grub in him. All i can say is, you are a loser mate, that bird will still be trained, but cant be raced until i come home to have my club secretary re-register another ring onto him. If there is people who are out there that is against the system, dont take it out on the bird by removing his ring if they happen to enter your loft by mistake, just put the bird back into the air.
ALF Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 SADLY WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO WILL DO THESE THINGS "SCUM OF THE EARTH THEY ARE" > > > > >
Linda Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 I could think of a few sayings I could post here but best I keep my mouth shut (or fingers still) LOL
Guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 Just goes to prove my shock discovery on entering the pigeon world after years of competing on horses which was predominated by women [which could get very bitchy].....men are far worse[sorry but true ].Everyone loves you...till you do better than them!.I thought it was all "nicey" "nicey" till I became a serious threat at a certain show...and my best bird had 2 flight feathers cut off,i have a fair idea who it was,but you can never prove anything
Guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 Just goes to prove my shock discovery on entering the pigeon world after years of competing on horses which was predominated by women [which could get very bitchy].....men are far worse[sorry but true ].Everyone loves you...till you do better than them!.I thought it was all "nicey" "nicey" till I became a serious threat at a certain show...and my best bird had 2 flight feathers cut off,i have a fair idea who it was,but you can never prove anything probably anurra woman that done it chrissy ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 No definately a bloke Sammy,and I know who it was...they won't do it again,I'll be ready next time.Sad though isn't it cos he knows he could not have won without cheating.
rockinrick Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 on the question of ets rings ,, i thought they wewre a permanent ring jus like the rpra rings ??? so was it cut off ?
ALF Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 on the question of ets rings ,, i thought they wewre a permanent ring jus like the rpra rings ??? so was it cut off ? NO RICK YOU CAN TAKE THEM OFF THEY ARE'NT PERMANENT MATE
cemetary Posted May 4, 2007 Author Report Posted May 4, 2007 No, the ring was removed from the birds leg, they are not like the normal ring where they have to be put on at the early stages. The ways that i no on the removal is by using a coin, the person who removed the ring must be in his glory, how much more members ETS rings does he have in his possession. Its not hard to notice the green clip ring on the birds leg. I hope you rot ya swine.
rockinrick Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 oh ok thnx , i was mis led then i thought they were permanent , so does this mean it can be done at anytime ?
ALF Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 I mentioned this before in another post regarding ets dont think you will be the first one iit is going to happen to known quite a few people who have birds come back in the past minus there rings who wont ever be able to race them again there are some sad people out there unfortunately YOU CAN RACE THEM AGAIN ROSE YOU ONLY NEED TO BUY ANOTHER RING AND ALLOCATE TO SAID BIRD ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 I could think of a few sayings I could post here but best I keep my mouth shut (or fingers still) LOL THAT'LL MAKE A CHANGE
Taylorsloft Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 super glue them on .like to see someone try and get one off.ive had them removed before
Guest Vic Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 It is sad, and sadists maybe, call 'em what you want. But to run the risk of high technology pigeon racing, it seems to me , like a protest agin it! Maybe after watching all the "easy money" guys on the telly the other night, it could prove a spanner in the works, for one and all. Why was this system allowed (RPRA wise) in the first place?Vic.
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 CHECK ALFS POCKET , HE HAS PLENTY ETS RINGS
ALF Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 CHECK ALFS POCKET , HE HAS PLENTY ETS RINGS YES I HAVE BOUGHT A FEW MY USED TO BE GOOD FRIEND BUT NOW YER A F@@@Y :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 YES I HAVE BOUGHT A FEW MY USED TO BE GOOD FRIEND BUT NOW YER A F@@@Y :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I'LL TELL YOU THE MORN IF I MANAGED TO GET YOUR RINGS BACK AFF MA DOOS ;D
me Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 ETS rings are nothing more than a new version of "rubbers" and unless I'm mistaken it is a long established practise to remove the "rubber" from a strag to inform the owner if it ever manages to return home that its not much of a doo. Would you have been as upset if the guy had removed a traditional rubber from your birds leg Cemetary? Maybe just maybe whoever removed your birds "rubber" cemetary was trying to help you. Put it this way if a bird of mine entered a loft for a feed on the way home from a "training toss" it would not be getting a new "rubber" organised for it . Whats the point is just not good enough. Lets face it cemetary that bird complete with its ETS ring will get lost eventually, its just not much of a doo. Tip for new starts if you have a bird returned injured give it every chance and let it try again. If a bird returns flown out or is returned to you flown out give it another chance. Don't let your judgement about its worth be clouded because its cost you £1.30 for new fancy "rubber" If a bird enters someone elses loft for a feed and returns a few hours later do yourself a favour.
ALF Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 ETS rings are nothing more than a new version of "rubbers" and unless I'm mistaken it is a long established practise to remove the "rubber" from a strag to inform the owner if it ever manages to return home that its not much of a doo. Would you have been as upset if the guy had removed a traditional rubber from your birds leg Cemetary? Maybe just maybe whoever removed your birds "rubber" cemetary was trying to help you. Put it this way if a bird of mine entered a loft for a feed on the way home from a "training toss" it would not be getting a new "rubber" organised for it . Whats the point is just not good enough. Lets face it cemetary that bird complete with its ETS ring will get lost eventually, its just not much of a doo. NOT VERY OFETN I AGREE WITH YOU "ME" BUT IF AN OLD BIRD COMES BACK FULL OF FOOD TO MY LOFT I ALWAYS WORRY ;D ;D ;D Tip for new starts if you have a bird returned injured give it every chance and let it try again. If a bird returns flown out or is returned to you flown out give it another chance. Don't let your judgement about its worth be clouded because its cost you £1.30 for new fancy "rubber" If a bird enters someone elses loft for a feed and returns a few hours later do yourself a favour.
THE FIFER Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 Rule 230 says All Association members are allowed to time their birds electronically at all levels of completition with an RPRA approved electronic timing system , (ETS) providing the club/organisation has the required equipment (now comes the bit i like)and the officials are competent and willing to use it in other words rose its up to the officials of an organisation if allowed or not.
me Posted May 4, 2007 Report Posted May 4, 2007 No, the ring was removed from the birds leg, they are not like the normal ring where they have to be put on at the early stages. The ways that i no on the removal is by using a coin, the person who removed the ring must be in his glory, how much more members ETS rings does he have in his possession. Its not hard to notice the green clip ring on the birds leg. I hope you rot ya swine. God I never noticed this earlier Cemetary £1.30 really is important to you. I've got an idea to save "fifers" fae getting upset because they have lost £1.30 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why not put an old fashioned ordinary rubber on your ETS doos leg as well. Then when it comes home without the ordinary rubber you know to take the "expensive" ETS "rubber" off before your strag doo gets lost and costs you £1.30.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Linda Posted May 5, 2007 Report Posted May 5, 2007 THAT'LL MAKE A CHANGE :o I'm always quiet and well behaved but some people do annoy ya and make your fingers wanna start tapping the keys ;D ;D ;D
Guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Posted May 5, 2007 Interesting points, my opinion:- 1) Removal of ETS ring / rubber: either way it is theft. ETS rings are definite personal property; rubber ring belongs to the club, and both are required for timing the bird in; added complication that some Orgs appear to want sight of rubber too when ETS is used so could make a difference removing it. 2) Old guys ... clocksetters ;D ;D ;D ... managed to learn the ETS system up here. 3) Saw that bit in the RPRA ETS Rules published earlier ... 'only if X sees fit to use it' - kinda defeats the whole so-called philosophy [dda] for bringing in it surely ? and directly contradicts 'freedom to use if you wish' bit stated at the beginning.
cemetary Posted May 5, 2007 Author Report Posted May 5, 2007 Me, I take it you are still using the manual clock, your post reads like that to me, firstly you obviousley dont no the price of the ETS rings, they are £1.10 not £1.30, or have you been paying £1.30. secondly the bird is what i think i good doo thats why he has got one of the rings enterd onto him, the other thing is, this doo has been training with the ETS ring on for many tossess this year, i dont no what happened to him for him to go into any ones lift, but the thing that is getting me is, the swine who removed the ring from the bird which it dosent belong to him. As being a Fifer, THE £1.10, dosent really bother me mate, if they were dearer i would still have put one on his leg.
me Posted May 5, 2007 Report Posted May 5, 2007 Me, I take it you are still using the manual clock, your post reads like that to me, firstly you obviousley dont no the price of the ETS rings, they are £1.10 not £1.30, or have you been paying £1.30. secondly the bird is what i think i good doo thats why he has got one of the rings enterd onto him, the other thing is, this doo has been training with the ETS ring on for many tossess this year, i dont no what happened to him for him to go into any ones lift, but the thing that is getting me is, the swine who removed the ring from the bird which it dosent belong to him. As being a Fifer, THE £1.10, dosent really bother me mate, if they were dearer i would still have put one on his leg. £1.10 ave been robbed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds to "me" like you would be better keeping the ring Cemetary. All the best with todays race hope all your doos get home safe and sound under their own steam complete with their inexpensive £1.10 ETS rings intact.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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