ONE DROP HOLE

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

HELLO I THINK ACTION SOULD BE TAKEN ON THE FACT THAT THERE SHOULD ONLY BE 1 HOLE FOR  A BIRD TO PASS THROUGH WHEN USING ETS AS IN A WIND UP CLOCK OR T3 YOU CAN ONLY PUT 1 RUBBER TO 1 THIMBLE WHERE IF YOU USE ETS YOU CAN CLOCK 3-4 BIRDS ON ONE WALK THROUGH WHICH IS UN FAIR LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH B & R LONG & COX FIRST 13 POSITIONS BUT TAKING JOINT POSITIONS LOOK!

 

NORFOLK & SUFFOLK SOUTH ROAD CHAMPIONSHIP CLUB

EASTBORNE 73 SENT 1054 BIRDS.

 

NAME                       AFT            VEL

BRLONGCOX          01:52:17      1706.00

BRLONGCOX          01:52:18      1705.75

BRLONGCOX          01:52:19      1705.74

BRLONGCOX          01:52:20      1705.24

BRLONGCOX          01:52:23      1704.48

BRLONGCOX          01:57:22      1632.11

BRLONGCOX          01:57:22      1632.11

BRLONGCOX          01:57:22      1632.11

BRLONGCOX          01:57:22      1632.11

BRLONGCOX          01.57.24       1631.65

BRLONGCOX          01:57:25     1631.42

BRLONGCOX          01:57:26     1631.18

BRLONGCOX          01:57:26     1631.18

 

IT SHOULD BE TAKEN DOWN TO ONE DROP HOLE SO ONLY ONE BIRD AT A TIME!

[wayne77]

Thats the start of good idea there. Good thought still get close timings but would stop people having banks of timing pads. Wayne

PS I'm not anti or for ETS as I know my birds not good enough which ever system I use so until the day I fly better and am beaten by ETS that is day I buy it. But I know I have to put alot of effort in to get up to good level and an ETS system will not do that for me.

[Roland]

Thats the start of good idea there. Good thought still get close timings but would stop people having banks of timing pads. Wayne

PS I'm not anti or for ETS as I know my birds not good enough which ever system I use so until the day I fly better and am beaten by ETS that is day I buy it. But I know I have to put alot of effort in to get up to good level and an ETS system will not do that for me.

 

Realism mucker.

[sapper756]

At the end of the day, if the bird is there why should it not be clocked? Some people just don,t like being beaten, and constanly look for excuses to say why thier not winning. LOOK IN THE MIRROR FOLKS ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest TAMMY_1]

At the end of the day, if the bird is there why should it not be clocked? Some people just don,t like being beaten, and constanly look for excuses to say why thier not winning. LOOK IN THE MIRROR FOLKS ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

exactly, you pay to send every bird so you are entiled to time in as many as you want.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

Brian was still getting results like that when he was using an ordinary clock

 

But he would not have timed in 4 birds on the same second or timed in 8 within 4 seconds without ets, but disnae matter what clock u have you still need to get the birds home first

[PIGEON_MAN]

I Think i am right in saying that the whole of his club use the ETS system,and how did they get it,Brian Long payed for all the members to have it.As you quite rightly say Rose he as   been putting up performances like that for many years before ETS came in.It just goes to show how good a fancier really is when his birds can be given the correct  timings they deserve.

[Guest]

It should be clear now that 'rubber & thimble' has been giving false race results for years. Said it for a while, there are folks out there who can have 10/12 birds before the next person in the race has even one. Its not the clock that's caused that because it was already happening, its just that the person now has a clock that can accurately record his lofts true performances ... see the thread on G McAloney & Son for example, and we are talking here of Fed not a club, and up to 9000 pigeons a race, not a couple of hundred.. can't blame ETS for that.

[Guest bristolkev]

in my club we can`t put 2 rubbers in 1 thimble,this would give 2 birds the excat same time which is not allowed.so why is ETS allowed to time 2 birds or more with the exact same time?

[PIGEON_MAN]

in my club we can`t put 2 rubbers in 1 thimble,this would give 2 birds the excat same time which is not allowed.so why is ETS allowed to time 2 birds or more with the exact same time?

 

Think thats a question for the RPRA council,I have known many who lost club and fed positions by putting 2 rubbers in one thimble.

[jim]

dont know what the problem is his first bird is five minutes infront of his last

so where are the other members birds behind clocks will not make them homer faster

 

                               jim

[ACE LOFTS]

i dont see nothing wrong with ets, at the end of the day which ever clocking method 1 is useing the bird still needs to trap, and in fact birds going threw an ets have less stress on them.

 

i think were gona get the "ETS" next season.

[nogin]

It should be clear now that 'rubber & thimble' has been giving false race results for years. Said it for a while, there are folks out there who can have 10/12 birds before the next person in the race has even one. Its not the clock that's caused that because it was already happening, its just that the person now has a clock that can accurately record his lofts true performances ... see the thread on G McAloney & Son for example, and we are talking here of Fed not a club, and up to 9000 pigeons a race, not a couple of hundred.. can't blame ETS for that.

 

GEORGE & WULLIE USE A T3

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

At the end of the day, if the bird is there why should it not be clocked? Some people just don,t like being beaten, and constanly look for excuses to say why thier not winning. LOOK IN THE MIRROR FOLKS ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

ok so i will put 4 rubbers in a thible and get kicked out my club!

[Ian Gill]

Clocks dont win races whether its ets toulet or t3 !!

 

Good pigeons win races and nothing else..instead of complaining about fanciers timing systems,maybe fanciers should concentrate on getting better bloodlines about them instead of using ets as yet another excuse.

 

 

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

 

exactly, you pay to send every bird so you are entiled to time in as many as you want.

 

its not how many you time read the post it says its un fair as i cant put 4 rubbers in a thimble and get the same time but i can with ets

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

this is not WORKING! its not that hopw many birds he clocks its that he can clock 4 at a time but im not allowed  with a normal clock

[sapper756]

 

its not how many you time read the post it says its un fair as i cant put 4 rubbers in a thimble and get the same time but i can with ets

 

You most have LARGE thimbles ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[PIGEON_MAN]

Clocks dont win races whether its ets toulet or t3 !!

 

Good pigeons win races and nothing else..instead of complaining about fanciers timing systems,maybe fanciers should concentrate on getting better bloodlines about them instead of using ets as yet another excuse.

 

 

The best posting i,ve seen in a long time,i just wish the people who are against ETS would realise this.

[PIGEON_MAN]

 

ok so i will put 4 rubbers in a thible and get kicked out my club!

 

Sorry ben but rules are rules wether we like them or not.If they bring out new rules to cover ETS then we will have to abide by them,as far as I can see no one is breaking any of the rules covering ETS at the moment.

[me]

It should be clear now that 'rubber & thimble' has been giving false race results for years. Said it for a while, there are folks out there who can have 10/12 birds before the next person in the race has even one. Its not the clock that's caused that because it was already happening, its just that the person now has a clock that can accurately record his lofts true performances ... see the thread on G McAloney & Son for example, and we are talking here of Fed not a club, and up to 9000 pigeons a race, not a couple of hundred.. can't blame ETS for that.

 

 

You just don't get it Bruno lad doo you?

 

[Guest bristolkev]

how can ETS be fair.......so a fancier using ETS on a landing board can clock multiple birds having say 4 birds with the exact same time.what about a fancier using ETS flying open door he still has to catch the bird and swipe it over the pad.so say the open door flyer had 4 come together he`s not going to get 4 birds with the exact same time coz he`s got to catch each one so this gives other fanciers a chance to split his birds or the result up.or are we saying that the open door flyer has to change his trapping system to a landing board system?..........is that fair?

[Guest]

 

GEORGE & WULLIE USE A T3

 

My point was that doesn't matter what clock is used, some people have been getting a number of birds home before the next member on the result has even got one. If the McAloneys changed to ETS next season, could it be truthfully said it was the new clocking system that was responsible for these results?

 

Matter of interest - we know they have excellent birds, we see they work well as a team in timing them, what kind of trapping system do they use?

 

[Guest]

 

 

You just don't get it Bruno lad doo you?

 

I certainly don't get this post. If you have something to say, make points so that folk just might have a chance of knowing what you are talking about.

[Guest]

 

its not how many you time read the post it says its un fair as i cant put 4 rubbers in a thimble and get the same time but i can with ets

 

I think the problem in two rubbers in one thimble is that you don't know for certain which bird was first, and that is perhaps why it is not permitted, ETS is a different system and it does know for certain which bird was first, even when they are 1000ths of a second apart.

 

I'm not sure on the drop holes thing, Ben. All I can tell you is that my birds have only one way into my loft, thro open door, and once inside they go thro two 'drop holes' and over 1 pad, two timing areas. I think people would want a minimum of 2 drop holes, and if they had 4 sections that would be 4 x 2.