UK race from Germany

[rembrant2coo]

I think Mr Ellis,s mouth will be watering at this one

 

it certainly is that, there is funds already for the saintes race through the same man who put up 2 y/bs for sale at the last l/bred sale i think we will all look forward to it happening open to all of scotland

[aarden]

we also raced from germany in the 80's,absoloute disaster,place called DATTELN,

[Guest]

To all of U/K

[REDCHEQHEN]

This was done years ago the British Berlin Club it was quite successful but as NE fanciers dropped distance racing the club folded. It whould have to a national club as the Up north combine struggle to send 2,000 to Bourges.They are sprint mad now no more Blue Boys anymore.

 

3137 birds from Bourges this year  

 

12600 Clermont in 2006

[rembrant2coo]

To all of U/K

 

sorry frank. yes to all of the u/k  by the way procy will be on the bus

[Guest]

Wee bit off the point I think, Saintes is 'south' whereas these others are 'east'.

 

Point is all of the UK competing against each other, with comaparatively little distance between the shortest and furthest flyers.  

 

Can think of many ways of describing flying the North Sea with all birds flying into a prevailing wind that will be a headwind and many times stronger and colder over sea than land. Mouthwatering isn't one of them.  :-/

[rembrant2coo]

Wee bit off the point I think, Saintes is 'south' whereas these others are 'east'.

 

Point is all of the UK competing against each other, with comaparatively little distance between the shortest and furthest flyers.  

 

Can think of many ways of describing flying the North Sea with all birds flying into a prevailing wind that will be a headwind and many times stronger and colder over sea than land. Mouthwatering isn't one of them.  :-/

 

guess you ,ll no being taking part then bruno

[REDCHEQHEN]

Wee bit off the point I think, Saintes is 'south' whereas these others are 'east'.

 

Point is all of the UK competing against each other, with comaparatively little distance between the shortest and furthest flyers.  

 

Can think of many ways of describing flying the North Sea with all birds flying into a prevailing wind that will be a headwind and many times stronger and colder over sea than land. Mouthwatering isn't one of them.  :-/

 

Yes - but South East wind will be a blow home

[Guest]

great idea bring it on

[Chris Little]

I think Mr Ellis,s mouth will be watering at this one

 

So is mine Frank along with many others  

 

Discussed this at the South Lanarkshire quiz night on Friday and got a good response.

[rembrant2coo]

 

So is mine Frank along with many others  

 

Discussed this at the South Lanarkshire quiz night on Friday and got a good response.

 

thought that would be right up your street chris

[Guest]

We need people like you Chris to promote the likes of this i dont think the birdage would be the number stated in the paper but still good enough to justify the race

[Guest]

 

guess you ,ll no being taking part then bruno

 

 

Simply being realistic on what the bird is being asked to do. Would love to take part but haven't a scooby how to prepare a pigeon to face a probable 200 - 300 mile open sea crossing in a headwind. Where would I get open sea training around here?

 

I've a pigeon in mainland Norway at the moment that flew 700 miles accross the North sea albeit in the wrong direction and simply kept flying till it made landfall - an oil rig in the Norwegian sector, about 75 miles off the Norwegian coast in the Artic Circle on same latitude as Faroes.

 

As my clubmates remarked 'you obviously bred that one for the distance pity it hadn't a better sense of direction    ;D;D:)

[Guest]

fair comment bruno but you wont know untill you try as the late Matt Mclauchlan said to me you cant win if you dont send

[jimmy white]

my thoughts are ,,try it, i think were all scared of something different , but as for this idea , why not give it a try [its the only way to find out ] ive often advocated a race in to scotland,,,,,from denmark , fairest racepoint for 500 miles [allthough 450 miles of it is water ] same distance to aberdeen and eyemouth ,, the west fanciers would get their exact milage overfly from the east ,,,but could a bird do this ,,, seemingly impossible task ,,yes     i had one reported from denmark , then it homed on the day [single up] liberated at 5am arriving at 9,30 , beautifull clear blue sky ,e.s.e wind all the way,,,,,also a bird flown from kiem [spelt wrong  ] in belgium on the day , allthough shorter than germany , would have had to fly over as much water  ,,so things can be tried ??

see if anyone can find out about ,old captain hopas and his north sea dordins ;D  [he was my mate ;D ;D ;D]

[doo.racer]

Looks like we have the interest. Seems to me we could do this if the race controller had a bit of latitude. If we take wind conditions seriously and dont liberate into strong westerly this could be a piece of history in the making. I'm up for this

[doo.racer]

Still feel that Frankfurt is the best option giving the birds a crack at clearing the water

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Still feel that Frankfurt is the best option giving the birds a crack at clearing the water

 

 

 

Hope these help, my only worry for the pigeons flying into the north of England and Scotland is the distance the pigeons will have to fly before hitting UK mainland especially if it is in a head wind.  

 

 

Frankfurt to Edinburgh 637 miles

= 558 miles to British mainland on direct flight to Edinburgh.

 

Kassel to to Edinburgh 610 miles

=516 miles to British mainland on direct flight to Edinburgh.

 

Hannover to Edinburgh 578 miles

= 516 miles to British mainland on direct flight to Edinburgh.

 

Hamburg to Edinburgh 551 miles

= 504 miles to British mainland on direct flight to Edinburgh.

 

Cheers

Gareth  

 

????? is will the pigeons take the shortest route across the water which maybe is 200 miles or will they come direct on the line of flight which is anywhere between 350 miles and 420 miles.

[doo.racer]

Yes I see where your at thought the drag of the birds from west of Scotland and Up North Combine  should bring them in sooner than Edinburgh. Also, from Frankfurt the birds are far enough south that they would be close to land for much of the later part of the crossing.

[DECKY]

SNFC Liege 2001, Les McKays bird came straight off the sea.Must have flown 350+ miles of water.Flying out the east gave us 7 region winners in the top 10 open.Cant get fairer than that.I think there should be 2 racepoints made available for this International event.One should be the shortest possible, ie Hamburg, Cologne or even into Belgium ( Liege )This should be used if the wind is going to be westerly( headwind ), giving the birds a chance to make land on the night.If there were to be a tail wind, then we can go further.

[doo.racer]

Am possibly moving to Glasgow area with work. Any clubs left up there?

[frank-123]

cambuslang club in the east of the city or kirkintillock

[DECKY]

Am possibly moving to Glasgow area with work. Any clubs left up there?

 

Plenty of clubs mate, depends where in Glasgow area you are moving to .

[blackjack]

A quick reply to red cheq Clermont is only 430 to most thats not long distance yes this years Bourges was up this year but the NE is sprint/middle distance mad .How many Blue Boys are thier now and that statement came from a number of UNC flyers good ones . How many fly 600 plus more than once a year up there and how many fly NFC or BICC ?.

[doo.racer]

Seems that the Scots are up for this more than the others. Any thoughts from other areas?