defra again!

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

have banned the pigeon show i was going to this weekend so im gutted i had 16 ready and i have never felt so confident in my lide about a show in the condition there in!

 

all because of a scare up country

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

BLACKPOOL BETTER GO ON OR IM NOT PAYING 150 QUID FOR A JOLLY WEEKEND

[Guest]

BLACKPOOL BETTER GO ON OR IM NOT PAYING 150 QUID FOR A JOLLY WEEKEND

 

As of today the RPRA was told Blackpool is also off until the situation is reviewed at the end of December,still find that hard to believe though due to the amount of money stood to be lost.

[DOVEScot]

 

As of today the RPRA was told Blackpool is also off until the situation is reviewed at the end of December,still find that hard to believe though due to the amount of money stood to be lost.

 

Aye Wiley's badges

Chickadee's, Alf's, Dark chequer's bar bill, some businesses could go bust ;D ;D ;D

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Aye Wiley's badges

Chickadee's, Alf's, Dark chequer's bar bill, some businesses could go bust ;D ;D ;D

 

aye they could that  ;D

[Guest]

 

Aye Wiley's badges

Chickadee's, Alf's, Dark chequer's bar bill, some businesses could go bust ;D ;D ;D

 

Aye especially if they loose Alf's bar bill aswell,they will be relying on that ;D ;D ;D

[DOVEScot]

 

Aye especially if they loose Alf's bar bill aswell,they will be relying on that ;D ;D ;D

 

Aye, why not just have a party regardless ;D ;D ;D

[frank-123]

do you think i will say to the misses blackpool is not on ;D

[jimmy white]

 

As of today the RPRA was told Blackpool is also off until the situation is reviewed at the end of December,still find that hard to believe though due to the amount of money stood to be lost.

 

i think [and hope] once peter bryant gets his teeth in to this , this meeting at the end of dec. could possibly favour the fanciers for the blackpool show, providing,,there are no more outbreaks

as you say chrissy, there is a lot of money to be lost , so we can only live in hope and try not to look at the negative side ,,,,,,so heres hoping

[Guest]

 

i think [and hope] once peter bryant gets his teeth in to this , this meeting at the end of dec. could possibly favour the fanciers for the blackpool show, providing,,there are no more outbreaks

as you say chrissy, there is a lot of money to be lost , so we can only live in hope and try not to look at the negative side ,,,,,,so heres hoping

 

The year certainly won't be the same without Blackpool,just hoping it will be sorted by then

[DOVEScot]

 

i think [and hope] once peter bryant gets his teeth in to this , this meeting at the end of dec. could possibly favour the fanciers for the blackpool show, providing,,there are no more outbreaks

as you say chrissy, there is a lot of money to be lost , so we can only live in hope and try not to look at the negative side ,,,,,,so heres hoping

 

Propotionally there is a lot of money to be lost with any show, the one commong up at Cupar in Fife is on it's final chance I hear, this could be the nail in the coffin for it, some on this w/e will have paid for halls, accomodation, buses ect so might be a great loss to these people, Peter Bryant or whoever should be fighting their corner as well not just the prime events.

"Without the roots the mighty tree will fall"

[thunderboult]

if they put another ban on we should do as the french do and take to the streets ,i for 1 am fed up of being bent over the barrel.

[Wiley]

If blackpool has been called off how comes Telford is still going through this weekend? :-/

[chickadee]

 

Aye Wiley's badges

Chickadee's, Alf's, Dark chequer's bar bill, some businesses could go bust ;D ;D ;D

 

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[DOVEScot]

If blackpool has been called off how comes Telford is still going through this weekend? :-/

 

If it is, it will be a kick in the teeth to many, especially the ones cancelled at the same time

[ALF]

 

Aye Wiley's badges

Chickadee's, Alf's, Dark chequer's bar bill, some businesses could go bust ;D ;D ;D

 

I'M TEETOTAL THAT WEEKEND ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

 

[chickadee]

 

I'M TEETOTAL THAT WEEKEND ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

 

No yer no, how come your wife is driving home then????? ;D ;D ;D ;D

[ALF]

 

No yer no, how come your wife is driving home then????? ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

COS AM DRIVING DOON THERE :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

two more gone for me now >

[little sam]

telfod still on just without the birds but then i dont see any point  :-/

 

it will be ok by blackpool  

[Pompey Mick]

Typical of DEFRA, clout the minority interests with no good reason.

To ban Pigeon shows is  an unnecessary knee-jerk reaction when all recent scientific evidence points to the fact that pigeons are extremely resistant to this disease and are classified as a 'No Transmission' species by the EU in recent vaccination trials.

To be put in the 'especially high risk' category by Hilary Benn

 

(Quote: In addition, the national general licences permitting bird gatherings in England, Scotland and Wales have been revoked, and no bird shows and pigeon racing will be permitted for the time being. We have taken this measure nationwide as bird gatherings pose an especially high risk of onward spread of disease.)

 

is just not scientifically justified, it is in fact a blatant lie, all known evidence says otherwise.

 

Representation must be made to DEFRA to explain why Pigeons have been summararily categorised in this fashion.

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

any way i thought pigeons couldnt carry it and 2 they onli controol the birds in a 10 mile radius of the infected areas

[Guest]

any way i thought pigeons couldnt carry it and 2 they onli controol the birds in a 10 mile radius of the infected areas

 

DEFRA had 2 arguments, Ben. (1) Pigeons could become infected and spread the disease (2) Pigeons could carry the virus on 'dirt' on their feet & feathers.

 

I think we have basically won argument (1) - Pigeons may become infected with H5N1, but they die without spreading it; the virus can't multiply enough to spread to another bird, even a chicken. Been proved beyond doubt.

 

We are stuck in argument (2) cos DEFRA vets think racing pigeons when racing touch down before coming home and could pick up the virus on their feet & feathers. Even if they did touch down, and it was an infected area, the sun & drying effect of the wind in flight would dry out & kill the virus. Thats why DEFRA won't allow pigeons to even 'fly over' infected areas in France.

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

stupid my m8 in gurnsey befor the outbrake happened wasnt allowed to birng birds over to show inless they were quarantined for 28 days but he could bring them over with out quarantined to sell now if he sold  me a pigeon and i transfered it i culd show it in 14 days with no objection so what is the point in that ban on gurnsey

[Guest]

stupid my m8 in gurnsey befor the outbrake happened wasnt allowed to birng birds over to show inless they were quarantined for 28 days but he could bring them over with out quarantined to sell now if he sold  me a pigeon and i transfered it i culd show it in 14 days with no objection so what is the point in that ban on gurnsey

 

Can't give you any reason that makes sense to ordinary people, Ben, but this is DEFRA we are dealing with.

 

DEFRA's initial reason in 2006 was that Channel Islands are too close to mainland Europe [France] and of course there was AI there then.

 

But Channel Islands have been that close to France for millions of years, so what's the big deal now? Also there's been AI in France, AI in England, but not in the Channel Islands.  So closeness or far far way, neither has any bearing on spread of AI, cos it was 10000's miles away in SE Asia in August 2005, but in January 2006 it had spread to western Europe. :-/