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[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

another 2007 bird gone to the hawk today

 

chucked a stone at it

 

almost nocked it out the sky it had to move

[leighton1984]

i thinks you need to keep them in for a bit.

 

[Guest]

Agree. If your loft is being targetted, keep the birds in. Hopefully after a week or two of 'nothing to eat here', it'll move on.

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

there late breds need moving on

[Roland]

Put a few out in the sun  ... in a glass cage that is... or under some razor wire... the fresh air will do both you and your birds some good.

[bewted]

Put a few out in the sun  ... in a glass cage that is... or under some razor wire... the fresh air will do both you and your birds some good.

 

 

 

   nice one roland mmmmmmmmmmmm

[Fair Play]

Get yourself a hawk repellent :

[bewted]

BANG !!!!!

[jimmy white]

another 2007 bird gone to the hawk today

 

chucked a stone at it

 

almost nocked it out the sky it had to move

 

beleive it or not ,, you cant even injure a hawk  by law???????? [off course you only threw the stone to frighten it ] my advice would be to speak to members privately for help and advice

[chichichi]

GENTLEMEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE HELPING THE YOUNG FANCIERS AND NOT TAKING THE PI#S... TAKE THE MICKEY A LITTLE MAYBE BUT DRAW THE LINE SOMWHERE,,, IF SOMEONES BIRDS ARE BEING ATTACKED BY A FALCON OR HAWK,, TRY TO ADVISE THEM AND NOT RUB THEIR NOSE IN IT,,, ADVICE DON'T COST ANYTHING...

WEBMASTER MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO YOUR ROLE AND HELP THE YOUNG FANCIERS AND MODERATE ON THESE POSTS AND NOT STAND BY AND WATCH THE YOUNG GET DRIVEN AWAY FROM THIS FANTASTIC SPORT,,, THE YOUNG ARE THE FUTURE OF THIS SPORT...DRIVE THEM AWAY AND IT DIES,,,,

 

THIS IS MY VIEW AND i HOPE MANY MORE PUT THEIR THOUGHTS FORWARD,,, LETS MAKE THEM CONSTUCTIVE AND NOT INTIMIDATING.....

[Guest]

Ben keep them in, it won't hurt them as long as you don't overfeed. I have some spare young hens if you need any to make up your pairs ..... or to breed out of if you want, let me know. You just  pay carraige. I am overstocked in the race loft at the moment with 20 boxes, from my two years breeding  I have about 17 cocks and about 42 hens!! I have quite a few to go I'll probably put them on here at a low price but if you want any Ben let me know they won't cost you owt.

Best wishes

Alan

[Guest]

Ben, just saw Sammy's link on the negativity post, see you're overstocked, sorry didn't realise!!! (will read the rest of the thread now!)

[frank-123]

hi ben

sorry to hear of your loss if you need some idea's give me a pm  

[Guest]

Surely doesn't matter if a loft is overstocked or not, we don't keep pigeons to feed hawks and we don't let hawks choose what birds we will winter for us - they can't. A a fed winner is just as good a meal for a hawk as a duffer - ask others on here who have lost top pigeons - a hawk definitely can't tell the difference.

 

If you persist in letting your pigeons out knowing that they will be attacked, you could end up with a loft of pigeons too frightened to leave the loft and a hawk that will continue to plague you during breeding & racing next year.

[Guest]

Double edged sword Bruno, I say keep them in but my mate told me when I came down to Devon leave them out and those that survive are the ones to breed from.

 

What I did was to leave them out from the time they could flap 8 till 3 each day. I lost lots but then Ivomec has helped deter them!

But once racing stops keep them in, cause that's the time when the pray is in decline and a ready made meal at a pigeon loft will not be turned down.

[Guest]

Think we are talking about two different things, Albear   I agree with you 100% about getting the birds street-wise, as that is basically what I do here, and my birds are street-wise, tho I do make sure that my YBs are about 8/9 weeks old and quite strong on the wing before they get outside for the 1st time.

 

But we are talking here about a loft being targetted, now daily attacks at Ben's, I'd say its a must to keep them in, because experience both on and off this Site says a bird of prey will always return next day at the same time to the site of a kill, or near miss. Need to break that cycle, or better still don't let it even start, and once broken, let the birds out again but at different times. A set daily routine for the birds going out just isn't on any more.  

[Guest]

Bruno, no disagreement as I posted elsewhere on here, my birds did not go out between Feb and March last year and still performed. They have not been out since the first week in August and will not go out again until I need to get them right for racing, as near as possible to Mrs Percy going to sit full time!

[retired]

I do not have a problem with hawks like the rest of you do with regard to bird loss although the population is steadily growing here i think in the last 10 years have had maybe three birds hawked close to home and i presume several more than that whilst racing. i think my figure is below average.

 

If i lost the amount some of you do i would be calling it a day racing as would not have the heart to carry on.

 

Well done to you for sticking through something i maybe take for granted (being able to let my birds out nearly always certain of 100% return)

[jakjak]

TRY THIS!!!!

sent u a PM matey

[rabfefe]

well members, i have also been attacked with hawks. i let my birds out once a week for a bath. i stand gaurd with firework rockets to frighten it away. my fellow fancyer has been attacked a lot of times but wont keep his birds in.

[chickadee]

well members, i have also been attacked with hawks. i let my birds out once a week for a bath. i stand gaurd with firework rockets to frighten it away. my fellow fancyer has been attacked a lot of times but wont keep his birds in.

 

Well if he kept his birds in for a while the hawk goes elsewhere to get its nosh and leaves you alone again to let your birds back out for a fly.

[Guest shadow]

If you can vary the time you let your birds out this helps as the hawk will have gone to look for a meal elsewhere