coey Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 how do you know it is time to move the youngsters into there own section? cheers, anthony.
lawrie Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 when the youngsters are ok eating food without being fed by the parents.
superstar Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 When they are picking up for themselves and the feathers have opened up under the wing usually around the 24 day mark
superstar Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 I have always weaned much earlier than 24 days once the birds are well feathered i find the parents lose interest as they get ready to lay again. No hard and fast rules but best to have a full covering of feathers with early breeding dont you think?
chickadee Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 I wait untill they fly down from the nest and start to pick for themselves.
coey Posted January 29, 2008 Author Report Posted January 29, 2008 thanks guys. will seperate the tomorrow. ;D
chickadee Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 thanks guys. will seperate the tomorrow. ;D Mind and make sure they are drinking themselves by dipping their beaks into the water to let them know where it is.
sammy Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 I wait untill they fly down from the nest and start to pick for themselves. thats the best way to do it as in the wild
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 I never seperate young birds till they are completely feathered under the wings, have seen previous posts on here when folk say they seperated their birds at 16 days old :-/ :-/ :-/ on average mine are 28 to 30 days old before they are moved.
Guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 You should never go off the age of the bird as they are all different,as chickadee says they need to be pecking and drinking for themselves confidently,this could be anywhere between 22 and 32 days,nothing to be gained by seperating early you just end up setting them back
Guest IB Posted January 29, 2008 Report Posted January 29, 2008 I think it depends on how you rear them. For example, some people don't feed their birds in the nest box, they eat at a communal feeder on the loft floor. My boxes are quite big and the birds get food and water in them. The youngster picks up pretty quickly what is going on when it sees its parents eat & drink. I like to see them out the bowl around 14 days and picking at the gallipot. The youngsters also pick up pretty quickly what the 'food call' is all about and are in the gallipot before their parents. When they are seen to be eating and drinking and at the box 'door' watching everything that is going on - or you find them on the loft floor - time then to shift them to the young bird end, usually 24/28 days for me. And I have stopped 'dipping' them in the drinker. They know what water is, and its in front of them in a drinker on the loft floor, they'll find it themselves. Did this with a few of the later ones last year - they know how to find water.
Lennut Tar Posted January 30, 2008 Report Posted January 30, 2008 I never seperate young birds till they are completely feathered under the wings, have seen previous posts on here when folk say they seperated their birds at 16 days old :-/ :-/ :-/ on average mine are 28 to 30 days old before they are moved. Interesting topic !!!!!!!!!, as some here now know ?????? I'm a bit of an odd bod on this site ;D ;D ;D come from another planet. Or as someone who recently emailed me here ;D ;D ;D, & called me a "Nutter" a term of endearment :D I presume. "Could be wrong" He better not do it again to me, or I will name him here. So smartarse !!!!! that you are, you have been warned. Now to business !!!!!!! Tammy 1. Because of our weather & other factors etc, I would be in all sorts of trouble, if I allowed my birds to stay together. Till they were 28 to 30 days old etc. When breeding here, its 30 to 35 days at the very latest, between eggs for me. Some are even quicker at times & any stock hen that can not fit into that time frame is gone in my loft, as I like to have at least 7 days rest between rounds etc, one could say. As an example !!!!!!! I mate on the 1st of October every year, & take 3 rounds & I'm finished on the 31 January (123 Days) at the very latest, lock stock & barrel, no if's or buts. Which you would see, under your system 28 -30 days just could not be done. "Interesting thou" how different things are done ;D ;D ;D it does just show us, how at times things are quite different. "Re FLY Aways etc" :D Enjoy.
pigeonscout Posted February 2, 2008 Report Posted February 2, 2008 Who knows more than Mother Nature?
sapper756 Posted February 2, 2008 Report Posted February 2, 2008 Who knows more than Mother Nature? FATHER NATURE ;D ;D ;D
sammy Posted February 2, 2008 Report Posted February 2, 2008 FATHER NATURE ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D on the ball the nite brian ;D ;D ;D
Roland Posted February 3, 2008 Report Posted February 3, 2008 I think it depends on how you rear them. For example, some people don't feed their birds in the nest box, they eat at a communal feeder on the loft floor. My boxes are quite big and the birds get food and water in them. The youngster picks up pretty quickly what is going on when it sees its parents eat & drink. I like to see them out the bowl around 14 days and picking at the gallipot. The youngsters also pick up pretty quickly what the 'food call' is all about and are in the gallipot before their parents. When they are seen to be eating and drinking and at the box 'door' watching everything that is going on - or you find them on the loft floor - time then to shift them to the young bird end, usually 24/28 days for me. And I have stopped 'dipping' them in the drinker. They know what water is, and its in front of them in a drinker on the loft floor, they'll find it themselves. Did this with a few of the later ones last year - they know how to find water. Like your post there. Depends also on several other things, just two being whether you want are bringing into a new loft, whether in a stock loft or off 'Racers' besides much more. I also like to see them fed and watered in the basket, left outside in the basket, released and live i the basket inside their compartment, before they are let outside, though I will pass them through the traps a few times before they are allowed to venture outside. The loft must be taught as a 'Safe Refuge' a first class hotel with fresh clean water and feed that they WANT to return to. When a bird is confindent that it can alway get into the loft when it wants, thats when they fly with zest and range well, enjoy the freedom, and then is the time to let 'Contentment' set in. So with this in MY mind, and the purpose, and what I have in store for the parents as well as the y/b's,are both rearing them throughout or just one sex, is there to be another round and cother ertain circumstances they can be removed between 14/16day to when they decide leave or are kicked out.
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