Pigeons on TV

[Pompey Mick]

Channel 5, 7.30 tonight,  Extraordinary Animals,   features the homing ability of a pigeon

[ALF]

very interesting and good talk there from Keith Mott aswell

[Guest Grasshopper Lofts]

have to agree a good watch

[cemetary]

Mist it,   :(  was it good, there should be more on the telly about pigeons.

[DOVEScot]

Mist it,   :(  was it good, there should be more on the telly about pigeons.

 

Aye, missed it as well :'(

[Guest Vic]

HUMBUG! A LOAD OF CRAP!

[Guest bigda]

why the f  do they have to show the f streeters in every f pigeon documentary  considering it had f all to do  with the st-rags

the RPRA wants to  have a say in whats  shown surely if the don't try and sort this out  some of the comments,  like flying rats,  poo poopers,    how are we going to be able tell the public that they are not, i think a couple of  adverts of our own on TV is called for to and i don't think  it will cost that much to get aired on TV  and who cares how much it  cost we should be demanding it from  the racing fraternity of all Britain  get the grain merchants in on the adds

[Guest bigda]

Your not suggesting that the RPRA should have a good pr person working for us are you bigda  ;D

 

"no," just one that can get his f nose out of the f  trough  instead of taking it all in, then wondering,  why we are at the lowest end of society's,  hobbies  but renowned only among our selfs as the only hobbyists that give to Charity's and  are never thanked  because no c is addressing the issue in the RPRA  the same Charity's that we help have TV coverage  but never a word is spoken about the pigeon men and I'm afraid thats where i would start from no publicity no charity

[ch pied]

well said , bigda

[Guest bigda]

well said , bigda

 

this whole sport of ours needs to  give its self a shake  and rid its self from the chains it has let its self  be tied with  and a lot of fanciers  are to blame,  for in one instance alone how Manny fanciers  have  raised  a tenner for there club in sponsorship I bet not Manny, more so the ones that take the most from open racing,  support and sponsorship  from taxi firms  delivery firms  should be approached  to sponsor our  sport- come hobby and thats , has went on long enough!   we should all and i mean all  this year press for a sport status,  so get the finger out  and get this  proposed by ballot at the AGM or earlier  its not good enough

press forward men and don't let other sports dictate to you .

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

 

this whole sport of ours needs to  give its self a shake  and rid its self from the chains it has let its self  be tied with  and a lot of fanciers  are to blame,  for in one instance alone how Manny fanciers  have  raised  a tenner for there club in sponsorship I bet not Manny, more so the ones that take the most from open racing,  support and sponsorship  from taxi firms  delivery firms  should be approached  to sponsor our  sport- come hobby and thats , has went on long enough!   we should all and i mean all  this year press for a sport status,  so get the finger out  and get this  proposed by ballot at the AGM or earlier  its not good enough

press forward men and don't let other sports dictate to you .

 

Spot on, especially your first sentence.

 

 

[tarzan]

 

"no," just one that can get his f nose out of the f  trough  instead of taking it all in, then wondering,  why we are at the lowest end of society's,  hobbies  but renowned only among our selfs as the only hobbyists that give to Charity's and  are never thanked  because no c is addressing the issue in the RPRA  the same Charity's that we help have TV coverage  but never a word is spoken about the pigeon men and I'm afraid thats where i would start from no publicity no charity

 

 

well said ive said this for years all monies raised should be used to promote the hobby of keeping racing pigeons .monies raised could be used to bring kids into this hobby ,get them off the streets give them a hobby a intrest in life ,take pigeons into the schools give schools a loft  and equipment ,we should have more shows open to the public throughout the year ,also publicise the major part played in the wars with pigeons etc .how do we expect to keep this hobby alive if no one knows about it .councils should give land for erection of lofts as this is one of the biggest things many would be fanciers are put off by neighbours screaming about our flying rats in there eyes,we have to stop this trend by councils not allowing pigeons to be kept in there gardens with no allotments potential fanciers are stopped dead in there tracks .

 

shows could be held in city centres where the general public can view our magnificent birds free of charge ,show them the difference between our prized birds and the so called flying rats ,get them intrested which could bring in new members  ,without it where will we be in twenty years time

[invalidusername]

Sorry for going back on subject again ;-), but I'm really annoyed I missed the programme (saw it advertised last week).

 

For those who watched it, did the pigeon have a memory card strapped to him to quickly get to the base camp and have the pics printed for the punters?

 

I can understand how the pigeon would go to the base camp (presumably, that's where it was homed), but for a novice like me, how did they get the bird to go from the base-station to wherever the pics were being taken?  Or did they drive him back?

 

For anyone who didn't see it, this will sound like I'm on something

[Guest bigda]

i personally think that the RPRA should write  a letter to our

patron to ask for guidance on our plight for full sport-all recognition

and acknowledge the charity work that we  do through out the year for good causes,  sport for all   is not to much to ask as

we  have been controlled by  persons that have never put the heads as far as i can see  above the  parapet, this topic is going on a bit you  all might feel but, the  stand- still has went on long enough, if we can"t  " support the pigeon now, instead of your glass been only half full, i and "we" think hopefully this is  time for all your support in this,  we are not asking you do  anything  other

than support this  if asked at a agm or by ballot so lads ask at your club is it possible to  have this done

[Guest bristolkev]

can i download this programme or is it on again?

[Guest Vic]

JUST PULL THE HANDLE DOWN AS NORM, AS I SAID JUST CRAP.

[Pompey Lad]

i think that the program was one of the best i have seen about pigeons on TV.

but people are right the RPRA need to advertise the sport more and stop what

programs there are on TV talk about pigeons as flying rats etc

[Guest bristolkev]

got the download ;D

 

http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/46310860/extraordinary+animals?tab=summary

 

you need bitcomet for this

[Guest spin cycle]

just watched it (taped) and thought it a nice little programme that did us no harm and probably some good. in my opinion better than that sun city documentary last year

[Guest bigda]

the bit that bothers me is the showing of streeters to show the public that,  thats the pigeons who in turn  say flying rats

not there fault,   its the pigeon fanciers fault for  allowing this to happen over the years we are in a stronger position just now to change that and we pay through the nose on anything pigeon, the rpra have taken moneys from us  now on  60 years  but  refuse to get the monkey of our back

how much dose a advert cost  in TV terms  showing the national winners on TV  with grain  merchants billboards as the back ground,  every big winner  on TV would soon stop the sh**

from the public  i bet 90% of the public would be amazed at the performance of the birds.   3 adds a year,  not much to ask

it was  at one time  results  did appear in the press but that seems to have passed so get  it sorted  from clubs and feds to the top of the house

[Glassfeather]

Hello,

 

The pigeons were taken, in a basket, by the photographer, who waited at a suitable part of the river, photographed the raft and passengers, strapped the memory card to the pigeon, let it go. The pigeon returned to base camp, photos printed.....

 

Sorry for going back on subject again ;-), but I'm really annoyed I missed the programme (saw it advertised last week).

 

For those who watched it, did the pigeon have a memory card strapped to him to quickly get to the base camp and have the pics printed for the punters?

 

I can understand how the pigeon would go to the base camp (presumably, that's where it was homed), but for a novice like me, how did they get the bird to go from the base-station to wherever the pics were being taken?  Or did they drive him back?

 

For anyone who didn't see it, this will sound like I'm on something

 

 

[Glassfeather]

Bigda,

 

I agree in principle with what you are saying, there is a great deal to be done in terms of publicity for this sport/hobby. I don't neccessarily agree with throwing money at high profile advertising campaigns, I think there is much more to be done at ground level. Feral pigeons, street pigeons, are a huge problem for councils, a very expensive problem. The best publicity we could generate would be for every flyer to take responsibility for their birds, so that birds with race rings and race rubbers are never seen in city centres pecking breadcrumbs. There is an organisation called PICAS UK, which offers advice on the control of feral pigeons and other birds, City Councils and the main Racing pigeon organisations should work alongside PICAS to help solve the problem of strays/ferals. If the general public saw us taking this responsibility, actively resolving the issue, then they might appreciate what we are about.

[Guest Vic]

Slightly better, maybe? But the South African million dollar race scenario, was obscene to say the least.

[Guest bigda]

Bigda,

 

I agree in principle with what you are saying, there is a great deal to be done in terms of publicity for this sport/hobby. I don't necessarily agree with throwing money at high profile advertising campaigns, I think there is much more to be done at ground level. Feral pigeons, street pigeons, are a huge problem for councils, a very expensive problem. The best publicity we could generate would be for every flier to take responsibility for their birds, so that birds with race rings and race rubbers are never seen in city centres pecking breadcrumbs. There is an organization called PICAS UK, which offers advice on the control of feral pigeons and other birds, City Councils and the main Racing pigeon organizations should work alongside PICAS to help solve the problem of strays/feral. If the general public saw us taking this responsibility, actively resolving the issue, then they might appreciate what we are about.

 

you talk of councils, problems  mate of killing birds thats not what we are about,  and if it hasen"t crossed your mind that the birds that have rings on them  might have been caused by the council them selfs by  getting  sheds taken down by neighbors who complain and only know the pigeons as streeters  and can all call them flying rats  thats the part we need the council in helping us,  to tell the public that the racing pigeon is not a streeter by choice. and i don't think much about a council that employs hawks to do there dirty work for them

for if they had to shoot them there would be  a outcry  and they know that,  and a fact of life is mate if we did advertise that would no-ck the rspb nose out of joint and they also know that,  just you ask the rspb to go into town  and kill all your streeters for you  and see what answer they give you mate the streeters have been there a long time but the rspb

are maybe protecting the streeter after all

[Glassfeather]

Actions speak louder than words, I don't think you will change anyone's perception of us or our pigeons by "telling" them anything. People see pigeons with rings on their legs in town squares, that translates as pigeon fanciers not being responsible. Just like when they see an unaccompanied dog taking a crap in the park = irresponsible owner. Full stop.