RPRA changing things for membership.

[Michael J Burden]

Current rule re memebership applications:-

 

159. Any person wishing to become a

member of an Organisation must be proposed

and seconded by members of the

Organisation. All applications for

membership must be in writing accompanied

by any entrance fees required by the rules of

the Organisation to be paid to the

Organisation. Each such application shall be

notified to the members of the Organisation or

to the committee of the Organisation, as

specified by the rules of the Organisation. The

application shall be determined by a simple

majority of those attending and voting at a

meeting of the members or the committee, as

prescribed by the rules of the Organisation.

The application shall be determined at the

next ensuing meeting of the members of the

Organisation or the committee, as

appropriate, but not at an annual general

meeting of the Organisation.

 

New rule to read:-

 

"Any person wishing to become a member of an organisation must apply to the secretary of the organisation in writing. The application to be accompanied by any entrance fees required by the rules of the organisation to be paid to the organisation."

 

Who said the commttee were behind the times. If you don't know what this is all about try reading yourreport on the RPRA OCTOBER MEETING.

 

For my part I am all for it.

[superstar]

Me to! EXCELENT news

[PIGEON_MAN]

Cant see that going through as there is no mention of when the application actually goes before the members.

[The Game Keeper]

i am sorry cante understand legal jargan could you enlighten further

[OLDYELLOW]

will this new ruling keep new fanciers from joining or make it even hard for ones wishing to apply to join

[Michael J Burden]

It does away with seconders and proposers so all you have to do as I read it, is to apply in writing witht he money to join and thats it you are in.

As for trouble makers then you need to use other rules to tackle their bad behaviour.

[OLDYELLOW]

with you now , but if your a shu member for instance you can buy R.P.R.A union birds and not be a member ?????? how do they enforce there rules then ? surely they would have new owners details on record and union ring bring the enforcement on rings only , but the owner of these rings wouldnt need to pay union fees but have same benifit as members

[Michael J Burden]

Oldyellow I have no idea what your last post is all about?

[OLDYELLOW]

a non union member can have ring through bird they bought but dont need to be a union member but as such they have to follow the unions stray polocy yet the union there ring/s belong to will notify them as there union ring , but the owner wont be a union member and have these benifits that the rest of us have to pay

[Guest strapper]

just reading that again , i think the only thing has changed is that any new applications must pay the clubs joining fee on application, where as before you would be voted in then at a later date be required to pay for the coming season?. at your clubs disgression.

[Michael J Burden]

Oldyellow you are surely talking about someting which is already happening and nothing to do with the new rule.

 

It will I am sure work like this:=

 

I live in the same street as you but your club has never accepted my application because of some reason or another may be I fly a good bird.

 

Under the new rule as long as I am in the radius of the club and not a defaulter I can simply send a letter and a cheque covering the entrance fee and I become a member automatically.

[blaz]

dont know any members so cant join

[maverick]

I can see a lot of clubs changing there boundaries very quickly

[Guest]

I can see a lot of clubs changing there boundaries very quickly

 

Spot on Maverick. Bet there is quite a few clubs who are holding their AGM's very shortly where this happens in time for next season! You will always get the militant group finding a way around something positive. Still, i suppose its a start!

[Chairman]

Simplicity it may well be, but you get an application from Mr Nasty, the members dont want him in their club, so the secretary writes to say his application was unsucessful, You now have no backing from the rpra because of the rule change. Mr Nasty is'nt having none of this so instigates proceedings against the secretary, wheres the backing for him/her, who pays the damages awarded to Mr Nasty when the case goes to court. No I believe the rpra have pulled the carpet from under our feet I see it as the start of the beginning of the end and there is a lot more of this divide and destroy attitude to come.In the words of freddie mercury "I want to break free"  anyone else?

[ChrisMaidment08]

how many of you are in clubs were you have discussed a flyer better than you who wants to join youer club and you have said no purely because you wont winn as much and sell youer birds for so much but now its wake up time this way everyone gets to fly in club of his her area which is as it should be not this petty nonsense of he cant come here he has 4 miles over me now i know what im on about i listen to it from number of nat winners fed winners club winners who wont be the top man anymore so lets get on with it and just strive to beat them  fairly

[kirky]

all that has changed is the first two sentences, no proposer or seconder needed, the rest of the rule to stay the same, so you would still have to be voted in by members in the normal way, thay have done this so that clubs can get lotto funds as clubs have been turnd down because new members have to be prop & seconded, not to let new members getting into clubs , thay should have changed the whole rule, any member should be able to join any club in there area,

[ChrisMaidment08]

in which case its a con to be able to get funds and if then someone applyed and was voted against the club would have to give funds back or face the cociquencis

[The Game Keeper]

just been in touch with union  as i am told if any one puts application into a club   you apply by letter acompanied by appropriat fee           then application read out  members against  by refusing application  not eligable for lottery grant by refusing member   so no change there so the only way some one has a chance t o gaine membership is  basically blackmail  no chance just fancy wording getting peoples hopes up

[Michael J Burden]

Kirky you are right I missed that bit. It does away with the proposer and seconder. Pity it is just a mismash then and we are not really any furtehr forward.

[kirky]

as a past secretary i was turned down for grant from lottery soley because of the words proposer & seconder in rule 159 not for members voting against an aplication as thay accepted that this is a democratic vote of members. so i dont see clubs having to return grants for refusing new members, this is why rpra have only the first sentance.

[ChrisMaidment08]

remains to be seen grant peaple aint stupid

[Guest]

how many of you are in clubs were you have discussed a flyer better than you who wants to join youer club and you have said no purely because you wont winn as much and sell youer birds for so much but now its wake up time this way everyone gets to fly in club of his her area which is as it should be not this petty nonsense of he cant come here he has 4 miles over me now i know what im on about i listen to it from number of nat winners fed winners club winners who wont be the top man anymore so lets get on with it and just strive to beat them  fairly

 

Chris, i'll second that!! Will the new rules disperse of the "polo mint" boundaries though??? As per my response to Maverick, and as Maverick says, some clubs will hurry to change their boundaries to try and get around this new rule? Although i feel its a good rule, i don't think its watertight just yet! I hope i'm wrong.

[Michael J Burden]

It is a pity it has not been changed wholey. I have joined many clubs over the years, nothing to do with pigeons. All I did was fill in an application form send my money off and hey presto I was in.

[Guest spin cycle]

Kirky you are right I missed that bit. It does away with the proposer and seconder. Pity it is just a mismash then and we are not really any furtehr forward.

 

it is a positive step. clubs can stay as they are and forgo lotto grants.....or they can open up and apply. seems like a happy compromise.