Why are the continentals way out in front of UK

[Michael J Burden]

I had never really looked at the size of our country compared to the Belgiums or the Dutch. If we are so vast which I think we are, then it does make it difficult to get into the Internationals racing scene (results wise). The real international races for me in the midlands are at the very extreme for distance to me. I think that the  northern flyers are even more at a disadvantage. In order to compete with them every week you would need quite a few birds, plenty of time and be prepared to drive as many miles to get your birds marked and clock set/read.

 

So I would say the logical thing for us North of the CSCFC boundary we need to surely amalgamate races, include the southern flyers. Get each club to have local prizes, then fed prizes then National prizes etc so everyone has something to show for their efforts. The members who are within the boundaries of the CSCFC are best placed to race almost on a level playing field with those competing from the continent.

 

I know that getting all to agree and organising the information results etc is quite a task but with the technology we have at our disposal I am sure that this is easier than say 20 years ago.

 

In my area I have stated that inland races should be every week in the fed and if you want to fly the channel pick a classic / National club.

[Michael J Burden]

This was one of the many quality picutres that I got m going. It is now at 2,125euros.

[swilcox]

MJB, guees who got the nestmate ;D Good old Harm and Chantel

[Roland]

Micheal ........ So I would say the logical thing for us North of the CSCFC boundary we need to surely amalgamate races, include the southern flyers. Get each club to have local prizes, then fed prizes then National prizes etc so everyone has something to show for their efforts. The members who are within the boundaries of the CSCFC are best placed to race almost on a level playing field with those competing from the continent.

Isn't that part of what I am been arking on about for 10 years. Makes sense, make it cost effective, and most importantly 'Meriteous' to participate.

But the 'Location / Self first' brigade' shut the door pronto on it'

Which makes one begger why they are voted in each time... Answer, good talkers and leaders, and the fancy's apathy.

[Michael J Burden]

Roland,

it has been siad before and no dowt will be said again. The Nantes Centenary race was the window for change but sadly due to the weather turned people off this grouping idea.

[Ronnie]

So national race's should be sectioned (as they are) then sections should then be split into smaller area's then them area's into club's.I think thats what people are trying to say .on a whole i think this would be brilliant imagine club's as well as individuals would get recognition.you may even get partnerships forming just for national race's.

[OLDYELLOW]

 

Us 5 are just being akward then - My point was the Foreign ring would in most cases dictate what people wanted

 

 

i bought a bird not because of ring not because of strain recently because it handles realy well i werent even sure it had a pedigree , werent till other day kirky said what ring has it got on it and i said must be dutch , and werent so rings to me are only used to identify there owner they have no other purpose than that in my eyes beside most foreign strays usualy dont get reported and end up in folks stock lofts to breed more birds of a similar nature most probably raced here from the likes of Leir market

[Roland]

So national race's should be sectioned (as they are) then sections should then be split into smaller area's then them area's into club's.I think thats what people are trying to say .on a whole i think this would be brilliant imagine club's as well as individuals would get recognition.you may even get partnerships forming just for national race's.

 

To a certain extent that is it.

I must also take into account he 'Earths Curve' WHEN planning liberation sites I believe.

Lattitude /& Longtuted aren't 'Straight Lines'

Also the Wind plays a fair part in determining the velocity of the pigeons, especially in different locations.

Sure we can't harness the wind, obvious that! But we can adjudge the sails a mite.

This especially so for the sections!

Of course, it goes with out saying, certain birds in certain area's will dominate certain races on certain days according to the wind. No one in real terms have a problem with that ... exept the 'Leaders' defending the feathered nests with crap scenario's about anything that might mis lead a few - But with fairer sections, more Big concern involvements, and certainly all part of most weeks a National, the chances are enhanced that then, sometimes, others in other locations, once or twice a season say, get a chance of the 'Big One' but every week merit and deserved notiority will abond most weeks! thsi is what most want and strive for.

[Guest]

 

Us 5 are just being akward then - My point was the Foreign ring would in most cases dictate what people wanted

 

 

lol, seriously though Chris, i understand where you are coming from, and agree. I do feel that the majority would go for the import. I've done it myself when "chasing the rainbow!" in my younger days! My experience now though is to do my homework on intended major purchases before parting with my hard earned. But, like I say, i do agree with your statement above.  

[Taylorsloft]

cos there breeding off all our strays  :X

[jimmy white]

   "why are the belgians way out in front of the uk",,,, are they??   i firmly beleive that if you put some of the best belgium fanciers , in either scotland or ireland , they would not beat   the good fanciers of their respective country, especialy in long distance racing ,,,, these are the places youll get the best distance  birds and the best fanciers , to fly them , over their own individual terrain,,, off course the same would be so, the other way round,, so to me,, you cannot compare , it would take a different sort of bird and fancier , to win these 5-600 mile races here , than in belgium only my opinion .

[pigeonscout]

   "why are the belgians way out in front of the uk",,,, are they??   i firmly beleive that if you put some of the best belgium fanciers , in either scotland or ireland , they would not beat   the good fanciers of their respective country, especialy in long distance racing ,,,, these are the places youll get the best distance  birds and the best fanciers , to fly them , over their own individual terrain,,, off course the same would be so, the other way round,, so to me,, you cannot compare , it would take a different sort of bird and fancier , to win these 5-600 mile races here , than in belgium only my opinion .

 

That puts it in a nutshell Jimmy and I agree 100%

 

[Guest Paulo]

Paulo, remind me in March and i will see what i can do.

 

Cheers mate I will might even help me win a channel race its embarressing. Getting them back but no victorys!

[Guest asha]

Hey Slugmonkey Your quote"The Belg have been selling off their great champions for the last 50 years, have any of you looked into going to Belg to race - THEY WONT LET YOU"

  Just another figment of your imagination mate,Steve and Phil Patrick from good old God`s country went to Belgium,smashed the local sprint competition to pieces while they waited 3 years to compete in the greatest race BARCELONA,last season2007 100th open Belgium section Barcelona,this season 50th open Belgium section Barcelona, with a topclass team performance,with only 1 pigeon not in the the clock on winning day.

    And by the way, how do you cook those brussel sprouts if they are that big,and what`s more important,if you put 1 of those on your dinner plate christmas morning,there would be no room left for anything else,can you kindly explain this phenomenon. :-/ ;D

[Guest slugmonkey]

Did they fly as themselves or did they partner with an existing loft I doubt VERY seriously they went, bought property, and started racing and as you said waited 3 years for Barcelona ??

 

 

P.S. we wont be eating brussel sprouts we will be enjoying Ham, Turkey, and Prime Rib

    None of which will be as big as your head seems to be !!!

[Guest slugmonkey]

P.S.S. I am a lot more interested in your results than those of the Patricks

[Guest slugmonkey]

P.S.S.S,

I also plan to have some birds racing in the U.K. next year so I guess we will see how big my sprouts really are !!

 

 

   Cat got your tounge ??

[Guest]

Did they fly as themselves or did they partner with an existing loft I doubt VERY seriously they went, bought property, and started racing and as you said waited 3 years for Barcelona ??

 

Hi Slugmonkey,

it is right that the Patrick Bros moved to Belgium to race. Prior to them going, Martin Mitchell did also, although i beleive he has a competative loft still in the uk aswell. Added to these lads, Frank Howard is another who races in Belgium aswell. Well the last i heard of him he did! If i ever win the lottery, I would seriously consider this myself, lol! Until then though, i'm enjoying my beloved UNC!

All the best

Dave

[Guest Paulo]

same here if I won the lottery I'd be over there like a flash jos thone watch out lol