naedoos Posted February 15, 2009 Report Posted February 15, 2009 i will tell you what to do join the2 lofts together then you can race old and young to nearest loft to race point please only quote rpra rules not shu thanks oh happy days what aboot if they're wearin 2 rings ;D ;D ;D
Guest Posted February 15, 2009 Report Posted February 15, 2009 Talk about splitting hairs !!!. What about if your loft is 100ft long -- two distances ? I dont think so 1. Do we know which end of the car park they are measured from & which end they are liberated from. What side of the lorry are yours ?. Pigeon racing gone mad I think, does it really matter, I suppose it might for the sprinters so it will be a long time before it matters to me.! See where you're coming from, I think I'll ask for my clock to be set a minute fast every race but record it as a correct clock, makes no difference in the scheme of things and I wonder if the convoyer will let mine go 5 mins before anyone else, after all what's 5 minutes at 500 miles :-/
retired Posted February 15, 2009 Report Posted February 15, 2009 I certainly wouldnt have distances for both lofts as this just causes more work for the secretary having to mess about with the system. I think the loft locations/ measurements are something the RPRA need to bring into this century, when i was secretary of the club we used the ordance survey map which i am sure was prob 25-30 years old.
OLDYELLOW Posted February 15, 2009 Report Posted February 15, 2009 its amazing that we can use gps navigational aids to go from a to b anywhere in uk and get an accurate map and directions , google earth can even give you photos of your back garden all be it a few years old , but yet R.P.R.A say that gps isnt accurate who are they trying too fool ?
Guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 I certainly wouldnt have distances for both lofts as this just causes more work for the secretary having to mess about with the system. I think the loft locations/ measurements are something the RPRA need to bring into this century, when i was secretary of the club we used the ordance survey map which i am sure was prob 25-30 years old. The scale is more important than age, unless of course the location exists in a different form!! As to more work for the secretary, can't see it, if using computer software you pick Dai Jones loft 1 or 2 and if you are still calculating manually you have to look up the distance regardless.
Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 I have two loft locations my stock loft is in the backgarden and my raceloft about a mile by rad bout probs 450- 550 yards in straight line my stock loft is the one marked for my distances
Guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 I had my distances calculated by using OS maps and when I received them I checked them using GPS and Google earth and both methods gave exactly the same Latitude/Longitude as those supplied by RPRA that were taken from OS map. The RPRA are in the 19th century and should start coming in line with 21st century methods.
PIGEON_MAN Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 I have two loft locations my stock loft is in the backgarden and my raceloft about a mile by rad bout probs 450- 550 yards in straight line my stock loft is the one marked for my distances Which one is closest to the racepoint,as you are either cheating yourself or your clubmembers.
Guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 I have two loft locations my stock loft is in the backgarden and my raceloft about a mile by rad bout probs 450- 550 yards in straight line my stock loft is the one marked for my distances Ben, you need to get your race loft measured as you will be flying to incorrect distances according to RPRA rules.
johnny11 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 The distance is measured to the middle of your garden or plot. Its all done off OS maps and they get the map of your garden and pinpoint the middle. So does not really matter how many lofts you have or situated in your plot. If you want to gain an advantage have the lofts as near to your house as possible.... you may gain a yard
Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 its because i used to fly rto 8x6 in backgarden due to having 1 season there wen my father passed away i now have to live with it
PIGEON_MAN Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 its because i used to fly rto 8x6 in backgarden due to having 1 season there wen my father passed away i now have to live with it You dont have to live with it Ben you need to ask your club secretary to remark your loft,just think you may win a big race and then be disqualified for not having the correct distance,as I said before you are cheating yourself and your fellow clubmates.
kirky Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 The distance is measured to the middle of your garden or plot. Its all done off OS maps and they get the map of your garden and pinpoint the middle. So does not really matter how many lofts you have or situated in your plot. If you want to gain an advantage have the lofts as near to your house as possible.... you may gain a yard wrong, you pinpoint the loft under rpra rules, some fanciers have a couple of acres out back.
PIGEON_MAN Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 The distance is measured to the middle of your garden or plot. Its all done off OS maps and they get the map of your garden and pinpoint the middle. So does not really matter how many lofts you have or situated in your plot. If you want to gain an advantage have the lofts as near to your house as possible.... you may gain a yard This is not correct as I mark members lofts in our club and I try to mark the exact spot on the map where a loft is,it can sometimes take a while trying to work out where boundaries etc are and even in some cases the house might not even be shown,but I still do my best to mark the exact spot.
kirky Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 This is not correct as I mark members lofts in our club and I try to mark the exact spot on the map where a loft is,it can sometimes take a while trying to work out where boundaries etc are and even in some cases the house might not even be shown,but I still do my best to mark the exact spot. i have been doing loft locations for over 30 years, all os maps show house and garden boundaries it is not so with allotments as this will only show the boundary of the full plot, you are right to mark the exact spot, but you did say that distances were taken to the middle of the garden.
hotrod Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 i read a post about two loft locations, you should fly to the shortest one ,because if you had two measurements to two lofts what birds fly to what loft? :-/especially if it has two rings of different years is that right joe61 lol
PIGEON_MAN Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 i have been doing loft locations for over 30 years, all os maps show house and garden boundaries it is not so with allotments as this will only show the boundary of the full plot, you are right to mark the exact spot, but you did say that distances were taken to the middle of the garden. Not quite as long as me then (but thats beside the point)perhaps you can tell me though how a ten year old os map can have house and garden boundaries on it when the houses are only two years old.Bye the way it wasn,t me either who said that distances were taken to the middle of the garden.
kirky Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 Not quite as long as me then (but thats beside the point)perhaps you can tell me though how a ten year old os map can have house and garden boundaries on it when the houses are only two years old.Bye the way it wasn,t me either who said that distances were taken to the middle of the garden. sorry my mistake about distance to middle of garden, we dont use the old maps any more, the planing office at local council give a computer copy of the area you require, if the house is built it is on,it is put on as soon as planing permission is past.
waltzer Posted February 16, 2009 Report Posted February 16, 2009 i dont no about your area but up here in the nehu the distance is to the centre of the shortest flying distance loft in your garden are allotment what ever one is the closest to the racepoint .
JOHNNY WISHBONE Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Centre of the garden between the 2 lofts is accurate enough as the distance liberated from the transporter can vary depending on what way its facing.
kirky Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 Centre of the garden between the 2 lofts is accurate enough as the distance liberated from the transporter can vary depending on what way its facing. this is not shu rule, shortest loft is, more than 50ft apart, then 2 distances are needed.
joe61 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 i make you right there hotrod they should all race to one loft even more so if DOUBLE RUNG oh happy days
Guest Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 this is not shu rule, shortest loft is, more than 50ft apart, then 2 distances are needed. 50 yards in rule book unless its been changed
kirky Posted February 17, 2009 Report Posted February 17, 2009 50 yards in rule book unless its been changed sorry 50yds my mistake.
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