ALF Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 Right if after the weekends crap re the unikon and the doos timing in before the race was off do youz think if all of a members doos had been timed in before the race had started and they run off his clock before the birds were due home and the doos he got home from said race had been timed as trainers that they should stand in the race at the time they came home but were clocked as trainers??? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ Come on lets here your answers then
Taylorsloft Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 yes they should get there time .but cant see that going wrong with unikon
frank-123 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 hard one alf we were talking yesterday in our club we reckon the said man should have set a manual clock put his ets ring in there to get a timer then scan the ets when opening the clock to make sure it is the correct ring you could use the training mode but i reckon it should be agreed before the birds are back i reckon both ways should be acceptable
ALF Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Posted May 10, 2009 yes they should get there time .but cant see that going wrong with unikon It went wrong with a lot of clocks at the weekend Stevie myself included but i only had 2 doos out of the race so it never affected me as much mate
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 yes they should get there times but as someone said the unions should have the power to suspend any certain manufactured products untill proven to be 100% safe to use was that not the case with the red stb when something went wrong many years ago?
ALF Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Posted May 10, 2009 hard one alf we were talking yesterday in our club we reckon the said man should have set a manual clock put his ets ring in there to get a timer then scan the ets when opening the clock to make sure it is the correct ring you could use the training mode but i reckon it should be agreed before the birds are back i reckon both ways should be acceptable Yes if the club agreed it could be ok then it would be ok in the club but if anyone objected it's out but in the fed i think it's f@cked and would'nt get anywhere near the result
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 hard one alf we were talking yesterday in our club we reckon the said man should have set a manual clock put his ets ring in there to get a timer then scan the ets when opening the clock to make sure it is the correct ring you could use the training mode but i reckon it should be agreed before the birds are back i reckon both ways should be acceptable I think there would have to be a shu ruling on the matter of timing ets rings within conventional clocks.For instance if i cannot put a rubber in a stb without a fimble why should a fancier be allowed to put a ets ring in.If you chose to use ets that's it if it fails tough.
Guest jamesa Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 again one rule for clocks another for ets
ALF Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Posted May 10, 2009 I phoned Ray Knight today to make sure this problem will be sorted and lets hope it is with this new update but if i never had a unikon clock just now i sure as f@ck would'nt be buyin 1
frank-123 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 I think there would have to be a shu ruling on the matter of timing ets rings within conventional clocks.For instance if i cannot put a rubber in a stb without a fimble why should a fancier be allowed to put a ets ring in.If you chose to use ets that's it if it fails tough. if your manual clock stops working can you time into another clock? rather hard there vincent
Guest IB Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 If I understand your question right, the problem was discovered at marking, and the clock timed all the birds in at marking, and the race was then cleared from the members clock at marking. You still have the members official race entry print from marking, so you know which birds went away. System will record those birds arrival time from the race (as trainers). To me it's just a matter of cross checking the arrival print with the original race entry print to verify the bird was in the race. If the bird's details checks-out, I don't see a problem with giving the member his bird's time in the race.
frank-123 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 I phoned Ray Knight today to make sure this problem will be sorted and lets hope it is with this new update but if i never had a unikon clock just now i sure as f@ck would'nt be buyin 1 all bad news for unikon the other suppliers will be onto a winner never really had any problems with mine
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 if your manual clock stops working can you time into another clock? rather hard there vincent Not at all mate if you chose to take the advantages of ets againt manual timing fair enough.But that is where it should end,if you want that facility you should get a clock set and rubber your pigeons as well as use the totally unreliable ets.
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 Not at all mate if you chose to take the advantages of ets againt manual timing fair enough.But that is where it should end,if you want that facility you should get a clock set and rubber your pigeons as well as use the totally unreliable ets. You should always be able to take two timing devices out as long as you nominate one and two, that has always been the case, individual prejudice should not preclude this.
frank-123 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 Not at all mate if you chose to take the advantages of ets againt manual timing fair enough.But that is where it should end,if you want that facility you should get a clock set and rubber your pigeons as well as use the totally unreliable ets. they rubber the birds with the snfc races to be honest i have used my unikon for four years never had any bother with it apart from a silly thing i done
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 You should always be able to take two timing devices out as long as you nominate one and two, that has always been the case, individual prejudice should not preclude this. That is what i said look at the AS WELL bit.
ALF Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Posted May 10, 2009 If I understand your question right, the problem was discovered at marking, and the clock timed all the birds in at marking, and the race was then cleared from the members clock at marking. You still have the members official race entry print from marking, so you know which birds went away. System will record those birds arrival time from the race (as trainers). To me it's just a matter of cross checking the arrival print with the original race entry print to verify the bird was in the race. If the bird's details checks-out, I don't see a problem with giving the member his bird's time in the race. Ian we never knew we had a problem until i got a phone call at 10 pm on friday night to tell me about the problem and then i thought we were in trouble and as it turned out 3 of us had problems with our clocks which just is'nt acceptable mate
Chris Little Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 Never had this bother before ETS came along
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 That is what i said look at the AS WELL bit. YES I'm agreeing with you
Guest Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 Never had this bother before ETS came along Oh come on Chris, never had a clock stopped? Set in the wrong chamber? Unable to read because no ink, battery dead, clock jammed.
Guest jamesa Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 if you had only put your clock in the base 5 mins before the birds were expected home could you have won the race without geting the birds
Guest bigda Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 will an ets ring fit in the chamber of the stb
Guest numpty01 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Posted May 11, 2009 if you had only put your clock in the base 5 mins before the birds were expected home could you have won the race without geting the birds that is the best question to date ???now could you this is highly likely
Guest Posted May 11, 2009 Report Posted May 11, 2009 Nope And you've never with ETS either ;D ;D ;D ;D
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