United We Fly "UWF"

[Guest bigda]

as time goes by, as i said 50 years will pass like a flash, and old ground  covered again and again realistically,  our qualm  is with the peregrine as its the only bird  that  can prevent our  birds return  from a race,  i  cant  put it any  other way,  its  pigeon racing or the  peregrine, its one or the  other,  we might have  something in common with the twitter  but it ain't racing, we are able to  sort this out our self,  some say  buy eagle owls  with money raised,  employ eagle owl handlers simple,  pay they guys to have  night patrols  for us,  the cheapest way and the  best way  i say,  Â£3,000  to each  owl owner per year on results  minimum    having no other  out lay, but having the  biggest   dent on the said problem, and  that cant be challenged,  if you had to talk from now till domes day,   my way would have  far more of a results for the racing pigeon man and once that was  achieved  we could help  the twitters, but only after we got our own house in order

 

 

[Guest numpty01]

im sorry but to listen noone can make up their minds what they are doing you cant even sort out name  i would like to ask who says if its european birds that noone can answer questions surely the news of organisation would travel fast enough it has already to all the hawk site.s re jacket and owls and thats not cost a penny ???funding okay mr bills rpra has to put it to presedent advertiseing side would be free there are an awful lot mags out there to get letters in for publicity its been 3weeks and what concrete work has been done is com in place is website in place is account in place are letters to unions sent out ????ect ect is tresaure in place all i see is name and conversations on what wont be done

[Guest numpty01]

and just another question has this been added to other pigeonsites to gain support and to let others know what you are setting up even letter in homeing world would bring some responce

[Guest bigda]

and just another question has this been added to other pigeonsites to gain support and to let others know what you are setting up even letter in homeing world would bring some responce

 

nope ;D

[Guest numpty01]

calling for support is fine but you have to chase things and give info out then get feed back three calls and i have got two deffenates and one possable  come on lads weres the info   :o :o

[Guest numpty01]

just looked its hour since i asked question and had no answer ??so i dont deserve one it seems okay ??/ but in that hour i have made couple calls to peaple i know who would have posters on back doors of their lorrys and would even cover the cost themselfs letter drafted to cage averiybird paper yet im numpty  ;D ;Dbest luck

[Guest bigda]

your on the ball there chris,     all action for a numpty you would be real fear full  should you   ever get the  transplant   ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest numpty01]

your on the ball there chris,     all action for a numpty you would be real fear full  should you   ever get the  transplant   ;D ;D ;D ;D

cant get one mate anyway life is to short these days to not act on things

 

[Guest bigda]

totally agree  there mate ;D

[Guest]

as time goes by, as i said 50 years will pass like a flash, and old ground  covered again and again realistically,  our qualm  is with the peregrine as its the only bird  that  can prevent our  birds return  from a race,  i  cant  put it any  other way,  its  pigeon racing or the  peregrine, its one or the  other,  we might have  something in common with the twitter  but it ain't racing, we are able to  sort this out our self,  some say  buy eagle owls  with money raised,  employ eagle owl handlers simple,  pay they guys to have  night patrols  for us,  the cheapest way and the  best way  i say,  Â£3,000  to each  owl owner per year on results  minimum    having no other  out lay, but having the  biggest   dent on the said problem, and  that cant be challenged,  if you had to talk from now till domes day,   my way would have  far more of a results for the racing pigeon man and once that was  achieved  we could help  the twitters, but only after we got our own house in order

 

 

I'm with you, would love to see Eagle Hawks all over.

 

 

[Guest numpty01]

if you fly youer owl at dusk and it happens to get involved in conflict with hawk and kills it you are not responsable for its actions and cannot be prosacuted  thats from owl flyers mouth in our area but if its rung hawk you must notify the organiseation ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Roland]

Eagle Owls you mean Albear lol. (like all of us he’s got Hawks on the brain …. And in the back garden lol)

That is though, I believe, a dangerous scenario to be aired. Certainly not one I'd like the RSPB in getting a notion that we are all thinking along them lines.

Must admit that that would possibly be the quickest and most sensible solution. Certainly in the short term the P.O.B.  or NSPP –  called, it will be between these two names it appears; would still have a role to play and that for sure.

However, I and other committee members, are reading, are taking on board these suggestions and comments.

The committee is as we even speak engaged in drawing up a mandate.

Some goals for instant action, others aims and objectives for a drawn out period of time that are wanted and needed.

For let no one be fooled, the goals of betterment will be a long drawn out and arduous trek and make no mistake about that.

Yes your support, thoughts and suggestion will always be sought and needed. Was going to say relied upon.... and that is true too.!

[Guest bigda]

 

I'm with you, would love to see Eagle Hawks all over.

 

 

you could organize  tours,for people to see the eagle  owls  in there own environment ,booked through the rpra, whu ,shu, ihu,  Â£2 a ticket  then  have  a few  cans for collections  once they are there : ;D wouldn"t  that   be just the ticket and should they say  there ain't enough wild life to sustain them  we  feed them just  as the do with the red kites  every day at 4 O'Clock down  the lakedistrict  

after all,  if its alright to bring back beaver, the wolf, and some talk of the bear, there must be plenty  to eat for all

[Guest]

Eagle Owls you mean Albear lol. (like all of us he’s got Hawks on the brain …. And in the back garden lol)

That is though, I believe, a dangerous scenario to be aired. Certainly not one I'd like the RSPB in getting a notion that we are all thinking along them lines.

Must admit that that would possibly be the quickest and most sensible solution. Certainly in the short term the P.O.B.  or NSPP –  called, it will be between these two names it appears; would still have a role to play and that for sure.

However, I and other committee members, are reading, are taking on board these suggestions and comments.

The committee is as we even speak engaged in drawing up a mandate.

Some goals for instant action, others aims and objectives for a drawn out period of time that are wanted and needed.

For let no one be fooled, the goals of betterment will be a long drawn out and arduous trek and make no mistake about that.

Yes your support, thoughts and suggestion will always be sought and needed. Was going to say relied upon.... and that is true too.!

Its an extremely dangerous subject to be aired on pulbic forum, and although I know its all in jest about releasing eagle owls (pigeon men aren't that stupid) perhaps it would be a good idea not discuss such things just in case its taken the wrong way by people who would just love to use that as ammunition to scupper any plans we have to address the problems we face.  

 

[chickadee]

Myself and Dovescot wish you all the best and good luck in whatever you decide or not decide but we see the same tunnel vision coming out time and time again "It will never fly higher than the ground if you keep your pigeon heads on "The public are not interested in flying rats, they are scared their wee lap dogs will be taken by these huge EAGLE owls, you will only gain support if you get the public involved. You don't need loads of money you just need a voice and know how to use it :-/

All the best

Carol & Duncan

[Guest]

Myself and Dovescot wish you all the best and good luck in whatever you decide or not decide but we see the same tunnel vision coming out time and time again "It will never fly higher than the ground if you keep your pigeon heads on "The public are not interested in flying rats, they are scared their wee lap dogs will be taken by these huge EAGLE owls, you will only gain support if you get the public involved. You don't need loads of money you just need a voice and know how to use it :-/

All the best

Carol & Duncan

I think your underestimating the amount of work that has been going on Chickadee, what you see and what may actually be going could be two entirely different things.  I do agree with having a voice and knowing how to use that voice being important and that voice must be transparent if its going to gain any credability.  However it must be a voice that is willing to stop once in a while and listen to other opinions because the problem I see from the past is that some believe their opinion is the only one and the right one and aren't prepared to take on board any others, that is what I see as the downfall of any campaign as its never going to be one mans thoughts its going to a concerted joint opinion that wins the day.  JMHO  :-/

[chickadee]

I think your underestimating the amount of work that has been going on Chickadee, what you see and what may actually be going could be two entirely different things.  I do agree with having a voice and knowing how to use that voice being important and that voice must be transparent if its going to gain any credability.  However it must be a voice that is willing to stop once in a while and listen to other opinions because the problem I see from the past is that some believe their opinion is the only one and the right one and aren't prepared to take on board any others, that is what I see as the downfall of any campaign as its never going to be one mans thoughts its going to a concerted joint opinion that wins the day.  JMHO  :-/

 

Good luck

[Guest]

Its an extremely dangerous subject to be aired on pulbic forum, and although I know its all in jest about releasing eagle owls (pigeon men aren't that stupid) perhaps it would be a good idea not discuss such things just in case its taken the wrong way by people who would just love to use that as ammunition to scupper any plans we have to address the problems we face.  

 

I wonder how it will scupper us, what position are we at that we need to protect? Where is the support we need to keep? Balance is the key, the raptor lobby will not want to talk with us unless they feel we are a threat. The european eagle owl is indiginous (spelling)as supposedly is the Beaver  so I'm not sure what the issue is?

[Roland]

Yes Albear of course the Eagle Owl is a part that may well bring the RSPB faternity to the table so to speak. Indeed a sensible rallying of united voices to Dafra etc. To legalise them would be an Idea. But for any illegal action to be taken would only serve to scupper all our hard work and effrts surely. Nothing wrong in voices crying out for the need for Eagle Owls to be brought over and watched for their safety as the Peregrines are.

And to be truthful and realistic if something drastic and meaningful isn't soon done thre won't be any Songbirds let alone Pigeon racing to be seen - let alone as a sport as we know it.

[Guest Vic]

Myself and Dovescot wish you all the best and good luck in whatever you decide or not decide but we see the same tunnel vision coming out time and time again "It will never fly higher than the ground if you keep your pigeon heads on "The public are not interested in flying rats, they are scared their wee lap dogs will be taken by these huge EAGLE owls, you will only gain support if you get the public involved. You don't need loads of money you just need a voice and know how to use it :-/

All the best

Carol & Duncan

    Who's DUNCAN?

 

 

[Guest]

Yes Albear of course the Eagle Owl is a part that may well bring the RSPB faternity to the table so to speak. Indeed a sensible rallying of united voices to Dafra etc. To legalise them would be an Idea. But for any illegal action to be taken would only serve to scupper all our hard work and effrts surely. Nothing wrong in voices crying out for the need for Eagle Owls to be brought over and watched for their safety as the Peregrines are.

And to be truthful and realistic if something drastic and meaningful isn't soon done thre won't be any Songbirds let alone Pigeon racing to be seen - let alone as a sport as we know it.

 

 

[Guest]

 

I wonder how it will scupper us, what position are we at that we need to protect? Where is the support we need to keep? Balance is the key, the raptor lobby will not want to talk with us unless they feel we are a threat. The european eagle owl is indiginous (spelling)as supposedly is the Beaver  so I'm not sure what the issue is?

 

What's happening Albear is that people are now openly promoting the eagle owl as the primary way to get rid of the raptor problem, it won't take a rocket scientist to work out a relationship between a sudden surge in the population of one bird over another particularly one such as the eagle owl and that will alienate us even further.  Indiginous it may be, prevalent its not, well not yet anyway.  Of course it could be a sheer co-incidence that there was a natural explosion of EO's and the likes of the RSPB and BOP's organisations may just have to accept that fact, but my honest opinion is that the less said about the subject the better because thinking something and proving something is a different matter but the way its going now its going to be too blatant.  But hey, its just my opinion.   :-/

[chickadee]

    Who's DUNCAN?

 

 

DOVEscot's Sunday name

[chickadee]

Can someone tell us what has been done so far regarding this? So we can lend our support if we want

[Guest bigda]

Can someone tell us what has been done so far regarding this? So we can lend our support if we want

 

come ,come  now this post has been on here for an hour or more, can no one tell the   lass,  whats what surely  it is not that hard a question is it  eh!