how many y/b in a 8"x6/"

[Guest spin cycle]

thing is about stocking rates is that they vary. people will go anything from 3sq ft - 3/4 sq ft bird. the higher the rate  the more 'intensive' it is, requiring  more work and usually a higher standard of management to prevent disease. IMO this is the route cause of  many yb losses because the notion is that you need the largest team you can muster...but as a result too many poorly trained ybs in less than good health are basketed. so the answer to the question is 'however many you can comfortablly manage...and how many do you want to kill at seasons end'. i would keep 30 in an 8x6 section but  i only breed about 16 as replacements for my oldbird team as , personally, i dislike the culture of yb racing.

[phil411]

ventilation is oki have mesh round top of roof and vents on the doors and mesh door open daytime ....

[WHITTY]

end up with 28 or there about

[dwh]

end up with 28 or there about

 

WE HAVE 60+ IN 12X8 AND FINISH UP WITH BOUT 30 THINK WE BREED TO MANY BUT WE AVE 16 STOCK PAIRS

[Roland]

end up with 28 or there about

 

Steady on there laddie.... though many will lose a far greater percentage. Do a lot lot worst etc. They will still put up that stupid lame crutch 'Overcrowding. It is tosh, for makes no sense, and yet is blamed for every thing when they can't or dare not use the Y/B/S syndrome excuse for failures and loses. Can see the itchy fingers now wanting to lie that at your’ door lol. Yes, sidle around to it lol. Yes even ‘Name Flyers spout it as if they must lol… yes these that fly 2 – 300 youngsters. Have seen their VASTLY over crowded lofts that they excel from, yet tell others as a matter of course Don’t overcrowd’. The amazing thing is they sell 200 or more ‘Culls’ that don’t make the grade, to those that believe in overcrowding …

Over crowding is a myth that appeases poor management and other fanciers failings.

So what of those, and many were winners unto Fed level, and most owned and looked after via top Fed men that went missing in the MNFC disaster this last year 211 out of 3500 were it? Oh, sorry, of course they were over crowded in the panniers in transit lol   ;D

No such thing!  They love company, love a Pecking order and pecking distance. Indeed thrive on it, as it is their’ nature. Coupled with clean water and good grub, regularly given, they well thrive. Ideal too is an open loft from say 8 in Morning till 4  - 4: 30 in afternoon (Still over crowed of course lol). Just where can there be any problems. So what is some are unhappy? they will fly of the top, come back late from training  / races to they too Bu*g*r off lol.

Those content will fly their earnest.

 

[Roland]

Only downer is that desease will spread through the loft quicker ... Hey hang on a mo there I hear you say 'But that is actually a good thing, it they get over it quicker, and aor treat emblock'. So yes that is actually another bonus of so - called 'Over crowding'.   ;D ;D ;D

[David048]

does anyone know if it is ok to use cat litter in your loft to keep it dry? someone told me they use it but i'm not sure if they are being honest with me?

 

 

[Guest spin cycle]

Only downer is that desease will spread through the loft quicker ... Hey hang on a mo there I hear you say 'But that is actually a good thing, it they get over it quicker, and aor treat emblock'. So yes that is actually another bonus of so - called 'Over crowding'.   ;D ;D ;D

 

you'll need more medicines though. the more 'extensive' you can keep them the less disease problems you're likely to have...isn't nicer ,as well, to walk into a loft where the birds arn't 'wall to wall' ?

[dwh]

try megasorb just used it this year cracking stuff

[showman]

does anyone know if it is ok to use cat litter in your loft to keep it dry? someone told me they use it but i'm not sure if they are being honest with me?

 

 

Have heard of people using it, but if memory serves they found it to be way too dusty.

[micko and jack]

i think if fanciers red this it may help

http://www.articles.racing-pigeon-post.org/Smallest_loft.html

[blackdog]

does anyone know if it is ok to use cat litter in your loft to keep it dry? someone told me they use it but i'm not sure if they are being honest with me?

 

 

yes mate, i use it in all the lofts, great stuff absorbs the droppings quick and easy to clean, just rolls on to shovel, make it about 4 inch thick and when it gets a bit dull just put a bit more on top

 

 

[Guest spin cycle]

 

yes mate, i use it in all the lofts, great stuff absorbs the droppings quick and easy to clean, just rolls on to shovel, make it about 4 inch thick and when it gets a bit dull just put a bit more on top

 

 

isn't it rather an expensive way ? how does it work out cost wise ?

[blackdog]

£5 for 25kilo bag, 1 bag does a 6 by 6 floor, lasts for ages mate

[Guest spin cycle]

£5 for 25kilo bag, 1 bag does a 6 by 6 floor, lasts for ages mate

 

that isn't bad...compares well to 'horse wood chip' products.

[WHITTY]

i fogot to say that i clean under the grills every 4 weeks and paint the floor with creazot real stuf it kills every thing +the birds inhale it and they look and fell great

[blackdog]

 

that isn't bad...compares well to 'horse wood chip' products.

 

used to use easybed but sticks to your feet more than cat litter and was getting grief of the wife trailing it in the house

 

 

[Roland]

does anyone know if it is ok to use cat litter in your loft to keep it dry? someone told me they use it but i'm not sure if they are being honest with me?

 

Taboo and detrimental I'm afraid from sauces that had problems doing it.

 

[Roland]

 

you'll need more medicines though. the more 'extensive' you can keep them the less disease problems you're likely to have...isn't nicer ,as well, to walk into a loft where the birds arn't 'wall to wall' ?

 

Actually, like y/b sickness, most now if they get it encouge the others to get it. Like one vomits and others peck it up. many encourage it. Including a vet often banded around as a good vet. Why. Some they get overit the better and the whole shebang moves on. It is also surely more cost effective to treat the complete lot than keep treating as one get better another goes down.

I love to see my birds wall to wall. Indeed would love just enough room to walk between 3 or 4 shelfs on each side where they have built their nests with no barriers whatsoever. - Only will have one side like that this season - Golly do they compete and watch each other.

Open loft as such and you never need any other motivation.