schouwman71 Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 i had a full brother to ch.kimberly wich was out of young zot 80 from the de rode zot 57 the red line of janssen bros.The other side was the grote gesch "sire of arjan".The other side was the sherpe lines and oude vos and oude witoger. i have 0ne 8 year old cock left and 0ne 10 yr old cock left still breeding good racers for me.
carl Posted January 2, 2006 Author Report Posted January 2, 2006 What does the ch mean when louella advertise there birds ie. ch the boss just wondering
MsPigeon Posted January 2, 2006 Report Posted January 2, 2006 I don't know or recognize half the names of racing pigeon strains these days, they seem to be doubling every year I race. I believe it is good to add some new blood every so many years. But along the lines of another thread on instinct and pigeons homing when they have never been trained or flown, I think that it takes a few years of breeding to develop this. It is sort of like they know from the time they are in the egg where home is. And to take it a step further they also know the handler and your management system, it's in the breeding, passed on from the parents some how. So it just takes a few years to get established, and often new stock does not race as well as it breeds for you. And new stock should be mixed with your established stock so as to get the best, hopefuly, from each plus the established homing instinct of your own strain or family. So I don't have any basis to comment on Louella pigeons, but when I buy a pigeon to mix into my strain I would rather get a stack of diploms with it rather than a long fancy pedigree. I think it is hard to go wrong in the breeding loft if you just keep breeding your best racers to your best racers with a better racer thrown in every now and again.
T_T Posted January 11, 2006 Report Posted January 11, 2006 Hi Carl, I have been using Massarella's since the early60's and have nver had anything from them that has set the world alight although that could be down to me. My brother has had some good Verheyes from them so as with most things, I think it's down to pot luck. You would most certainly think they would sell some good pigeons with the amount that they do sell.
swilcox Posted April 12, 2006 Report Posted April 12, 2006 Lads pigeons that breed pigeons and then bred more pigeons without seeing a basket will give you a pigeon with a depleated homing ability. Stuart
Chris Little Posted April 12, 2006 Report Posted April 12, 2006 When I first entered our great sport in the late eighties , LPW and the Busschaerts were the bees knees , it is the Busshaert strain from then that made them what they were. They have since gone on to be in my opinion a spent force mass producing thousands of pigeons every year from scores of families, OK , they still claim to breed x amount of superstars but how many are bred each year........ thousands upon thousands... The smaller and more select breeding studs are far superior in terms of churning out winners on a much higher success rate. Of all the current families they now house, only the Jan Aardens catch my eye
ray Posted April 12, 2006 Report Posted April 12, 2006 chris i bought jan ardens last year weren't raced but this year i will give them a try. when pigeon men come in my garden they look at my birds and out of them all its always the ardens they pick out, and can i just say they are beautiful birds and worth every penny,but i will see what there like racing. louella do good deals. and breed very good birds
slatey Posted April 13, 2006 Report Posted April 13, 2006 Hi chris i would stay away from l.p.w regarding any strain, i would not buy a tail feather from them. This is from what my dad told me what happend in the 70,s tomo
bewted Posted April 13, 2006 Report Posted April 13, 2006 ok slatey,you tell us half a story and dont finish,,,,,so,what did your dad say about the 70's ??????? ted
Chris Little Posted April 13, 2006 Report Posted April 13, 2006 No worries Tomo. I have no intentions at all whatsoever of visiting LPW or purchasing from them Chris
swilcox Posted April 13, 2006 Report Posted April 13, 2006 Hi Chris Hows it going mate!! The only line louella have thats worth investing in is the Invicible Spirit line, the rest are so so pigeons. I knew Rod Baxter well and i knew his pigeons and Beths Boy was a super pigeon, his children were lovely stong blues that really followed the Hession Van Reet type but when i saw the rubbish they were selling from him at Blackpool it makes me sad for Rod and his lifes work. Stuart
ribble Posted April 14, 2006 Report Posted April 14, 2006 bet the guy who won the NEHU queens cup (-16000 birds) dont agree with you,£99 for six'er!!!!!
Chris Little Posted April 15, 2006 Report Posted April 15, 2006 Hi Stu Good to hear from ya. Know what you mean about the SVR's , our small but successful team are also a strong bold family which originated from the originals in the 80's. Nowadays the SVR's that many sell seem a lot different.... Cheers Chris
Guest Posted April 15, 2006 Report Posted April 15, 2006 Yes Chris, I the USA there are 2 "families " of SVR'S and they are vastly different in appearence and capabilities. Ours are the "Old" family of the 80's all bred down from Dean Pallets birds, very muscular thick set birds with an aggressive personality, with the exception of champion Leyton Express and his son F8 Crusader they are two of the tiniest cocks in the loft but make up for size by being extremely aggressive. The second son Rolls Royce Merlin is a heavy muscular bird with a normal personality. NOrmally I would send these birds no further than 300, but Birds bred down from Leyton Express have won at 500 miles. The second "Family" of Van Reets I have seen are birds bred down from Staf's birds when he started brininging other families into his loft such as the Jos sootjens and look nothing like the birds we have and are considered middle distance pigeons.
Guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 I would add to my previous post on SVR's, we train as Dean Pallet trained his birds, we train and liberate the Van Reets separate from the other pigeons. We had an evil race today, 1 sent 4 SVR's to the C Race. everyone's birds were coming home spilt up some getting B birds before A birds. Our first 3 Van reets came in line abreast with the 4th a couple of minutes or so behind. They were flying as a team.
peterpau Posted April 16, 2006 Report Posted April 16, 2006 Tiz OK being sceptical about Louella birds. A lot of the best birds in Europe have gone in there. Some good birds must come out. Although I've not had any success with his yet. We are planning a house move, then I might try half a dozen Aardens
Joe90 Posted April 22, 2006 Report Posted April 22, 2006 LAST SATURDAY I CAME 2ND AND 4TH CLUB 6TH AND 20TH CENTRAL DERBY FEDERATION MY SECOND BIRD TAKING 20TH FED IN A FAST RACE WAS AN ALBERT MERCELIS COCK FROM LOUELLA PIGEON WORLD, FROM 6 FOR £99 SOME GOOD PIGEONS AND A SUPER SERVICE AND A UNBEATABLE COST.
peterpau Posted April 22, 2006 Report Posted April 22, 2006 Nice one Joe. If you have all the best lines you should get better than average results. And at his prices it has to be worth a punt
Guest shadow Posted April 22, 2006 Report Posted April 22, 2006 I bought british faroes and lefebre dhaenen's from louella and have won with both breeds, you pays your money and take a chance. A neighbour of mine has paid thousands for pigeons and the only two he has won with were two I gifted to him.
Joe90 Posted April 22, 2006 Report Posted April 22, 2006 nice one its not all down to the birds though
Silverdale Lofts Posted May 10, 2006 Report Posted May 10, 2006 Numa and Billy Mac what was the adrie de rhees like you got from Louella
max Posted May 10, 2006 Report Posted May 10, 2006 i bought some adrie van der rhees last year and some young birds this year and i am very pleased with them , they are beautifull looking birds , all from Louella
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