european eagle owl

[Guest chrisss]

any one know the feeding patterns of these birds i am having a "chat" on the tooth and claw site, with some body called"feather" who has stated that these birds are lazy feeders and do not eat that often

[Guest bigda]

just say you would like to see them in this country and you heard that  they very majestic in flight,  no more  than that,,,,.they eat

just the same as an  owl ;)

[bewted]

sent you pm

[DOVEScot]

any one know the feeding patterns of these birds i am having a "chat" on the tooth and claw site, with some body called"feather" who has stated that these birds are lazy feeders and do not eat that often

 

You will find that with the bigger species of predators, basically predators on hunt to feed, if the were living on sparrows they would have to kill quite a few to survive but as they tend to hunt bigger prey they need less kills. Totally different when they are rearing young as they not only have themselves to feed but maybe their partner as well :-/

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

following a  programme  on  bbc last year it seems the eagle owls will take anything up to size off a lamb,  but to be honest for those of you who never saw film they will take anything thats roosting in night.. on the program an unbaised veiw was shown which showed two pairs of  perigrines wings being removed from site,  this is why a call was made to cull them as they are not native to britain the ministry of defence will not allow this to happen on their land although in scotland it has been done according to members tc site this is purely to protect perigrines ,,, the rspb stated they are a danger to babys in prams, dogs, cats, deer, and  poultry, but thats all propaganda to achive cull,, there is male in clifton gorge lets hope he gets a mate????

[DOVEScot]

folling program oon bbc last year it seems the eagle owls will take anything up to size off a lamb but to be honest for those of you who never saw film they will take anything thats roosting in night on the program an unbaised veiw was shown which showed two pairs perigrin wings being removed from site this is why a call was made to cull them as they are not native to britain the ministry of defence will not allow this to happen on their land although in scotland it has been done according to members tc site this is purely to protect preigrins the rspb stated they are a danger to babys in prams dogs cats deer poultry but thats all properganda to achve cull ther is male in clifton goarge lets hope he gets a mate????

 

I am sure they will campaign for their own interests the same as we will, looks like they are trying to frighten the public "attacking babies in prams" and the farming community    

"attacking lambs" maybe we should raise funding to subsidise the protection of nesting sites :-/

[ChrisMaidment08]

no i beleive we should breed them,  and release them ourselves

[bewted]

no i beleace we should breed and release them ourselfs

 

best idea,but,who will help,,,????

[ChrisMaidment08]

lets not start again i would love to breed and release and nothing could be done about it

[DOVEScot]

lets not start again i would love to breed and relese and nothing could be done about it

 

No matter how many you breed and release if we don't make arrangements to protect them it may be a waste   of time if they are culled by other groups:-/

[Guest IB]

They are supposed to be top mammal predator, so rabbits etc seems their staple food. Would agree that feeding pattern would depend entirely on season, hunting & eating more in breeding season than any other.

 

No offence, but constant calls to breed and release these birds into the wild is a non-starter: (1) you can't release anything into the wild without a license, and judging from RSPB and BTO reactions in the TV programmes, you won't get one. (2) its taken around 50 years to get to the current state of play with raptor numbers, so would expect it to be another half century of regular introductions before eagle owl numbers alone could redress that imbalance.

[doomaloon]

there was one feeding on a mallard duck not far from elgin a wee while back

[ChrisMaidment08]

i beg to differ on letting there are a number of ways round this the law has no protection on this bird or what is done with it and yes it may take years but beleave me the rspb will do everything to sto it escalateing as they have already tried to do

[Guest chrisss]

They are supposed to be top mammal predator, so rabbits etc seems their staple food. Would agree that feeding pattern would depend entirely on season, hunting & eating more in breeding season than any other.

 

No offence, but constant calls to breed and release these birds into the wild is a non-starter: (1) you can't release anything into the wild without a license, and judging from RSPB and BTO reactions in the TV programmes, you won't get one. (2) its taken around 50 years to get to the current state of play with raptor numbers, so would expect it to be another half century of regular introductions before eagle owl numbers alone could redress that imbalance.

 

the rspb and bto reactions are based on total fear of any release. which means that we are on the right track, i do not if breeding these things are the right way or not,in 10 years it might return to bite us on our collective axxx,but right now anything is worth a go,and judging by their reaction the right way

[Taylorsloft]

there was one feeding on a mallard duck not far from elgin a wee while back

that was paul from forres :) :)

 

[Blue Chequer Pied]

that was paul from forres :) :)

 

Never mind mallards they tell me your doo's have developed webbed feet through all the walking they do to get home particularly when you train in the snow and they double up as snow shoes   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[DOVEScot]

Would released ones survive if they had previous contact with humans, would we not have to let a pair nest and raise young themselves so that they were truly wild and then native to this country rather than labelled as captive bred birds :-/

[Guest ljb107]

you can't release anything into the wild without a license

 

but the owls could accidentally get out   ;)

 

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

i think as long as you do not let them inprint on you and only give live pray they would be fine  a licance is not required for hawks i beleave going on ifo on pred site

[Roland]

They are supposed to be top mammal predator, so rabbits etc seems their staple food. Would agree that feeding pattern would depend entirely on season, hunting & eating more in breeding season than any other.

 

No offence, but constant calls to breed and release these birds into the wild is a non-starter: (1) you can't release anything into the wild without a license, and judging from RSPB and BTO reactions in the TV programmes, you won't get one. (2) its taken around 50 years to get to the current state of play with raptor numbers, so would expect it to be another half century of regular introductions before eagle owl numbers alone could redress that imbalance.

 

Rubbish! Any way, one can't help it if the door was opened by intruders during the night.

Need a PR. Firm!!! fact that

[Guest bristolkev]

some for sale

 

http://www.local.thesun.co.uk/sale/pet/bird/-/pet_breed_eagle/

[Guest bristolkev]

some for sale

 

http://www.local.thesun.co.uk/sale/pet/bird/-/pet_breed_eagle/

 

http://www.birdtrader.co.uk/birds/BT16809

 

http://www.oodle.co.uk/detail/Breeding-Eurasian-Eagle-Owls---Mature-breeding-pair-of-eagle/983232741/swansea/

 

 

have look at this s**t

 

http://www.independentbirdregister.co.uk/website/Bird%20Mart.html

 

read this b*$&**ks

 

http://www.rspb.org.uk/ourwork/policy/species/eagleowls.asp

 

 

this guy say`s different

 

http://www.norfolkfalconry.co.uk/owlforum/owl-species-facts-european-eagle-owl-bubo-bubo-t21.html

 

http://www.palass.org/modules.php?name=palaeo&sec=newsletter&page=100

 

http://www.birdguides.com/species/species.asp?sp=073064

[ChrisMaidment08]

good , the rspb cant half spin a yarn on the  eagle owl,  last here in the  ice age in which case is  native to britain not the perigrine  ?????? :'( :'( :'( :'(

[pjc]

how about approaching local land owners to fly them on there private land, its a shame they don't all come back when called!

 

[Guest IB]

i beg to differ on letting there are a number of ways round this the law has no protection on this bird or what is done with it and yes it may take years but beleave me the rspb will do everything to sto it escalateing as they have already tried to do

 

European Eagle Owls have full protection under the Act. Statutory Instrument 2004 No. 1487 - The Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981(England and Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2004 - amended the definition of "wild bird" in section 27 of the Act to include any species which is ordinarily resident in or is a visitor to the European Territory of any member State. European Eagle owl is clearly a European species, and at the moment anyway, at very least can be considered a visitor in the UK. I think that will change to full residency status, there are fossil remains of the bird in the British Museum. These were found in the UK. RSPB or BTO can't argue against the fossil record.

 

You may have picked up this error that they are not protected from the 1st BBC program on the Yorkshire pair which had to be corrected. Still could be said to have incited some thug to use a shotgun on the hen. She couldn’t hunt after being shot and starved to death.  I still think charges of Incitement to harm a wild bird could / should have been brought against RSPB and BTO for that. I hold them partly responsible for the bird’s death. They more or less commissioned it with their views in that TV programme.

 

Also Section 14 of the Act ‘Introduction of new species etc.’ makes it quite clear what you and others are suggesting is not permitted: - (1) Subject to the provisions of this Part, if any person releases or allows to escape into the wild any animal which—

 

(a) is of a kind which is not ordinarily resident in and is not a regular visitor to Great Britain in a wild state; … shall be guilty of an offence.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildlife_and_Countryside_Act_1981

 

Breeding & release is a non-starter....