Another YB taken by the peregrine.

[Guest]

 

You are wrong there. It hit me at 05.02 last Wednesday.

 

I think White Logan was way out of order there Steve, knowing how dedicated you are to your birds the last thing you want here is the type of response he gave.

 

[Guest stb]

yip thats right.  swing wings live mostly of pigeons and i no for a fact that  there sites are set up in major racing pigeon flight paths  to sustain them atificially.

 

take the food supply away and there gonners

[Guest stb]

what are the bops going to eat when there is no pigeons apart from each other.

 

they have virtually eaten everything else already.

 

i would eat stake if someone keept throwing it past me every day would you not

[white logan]

 

I think White Logan was way out of order there Steve, knowing how dedicated you are to your birds the last thing you want here is the type of response he gave.

 

go away and find a brain you halfwitt

[Guest]

 

go away and find a brain you halfwitt

 

This is exactly what I am on about. What chance have we got if we can't even get unity amongst ourselves. WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY. Instead of trying to score brownie points amongst ourselves we should be putting away our personal differences and addressing the problem which we all face.

[Novice]

 

your in a dream world , do you know ANYTHING about the peregrines feeding habits ?how do you avoid the times when they are feeding young ?at this time of year it is from 06.00 to about 20.00 hours ,..........or do you have a strain of nocturnal pigeons ?

 

If I am in a dream world you are a total *expletive removed* who is incapeable of reading english and understanding. Avoiding racing when they are feeding young is not a time of day thing. It is a period of several weeks.

If there are no pigeons available they will eat song birds and decimate that population.

 

I hope I have made that sufficiently clear for even a mental retard like you

 

 

[white logan]

 

This is exactly what I am on about. What chance have we got if we can't even get unity amongst ourselves. WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY. Instead of trying to score brownie points amongst ourselves we should be putting away our personal differences and addressing the problem which we all face.

 

correct bob , if jargre could read properly he would know i was not poping at the other fancier who's ar$e he tried to lick ,

he should read and digest what was said instead of trying to jump in

[The Navigator]

 

correct bob , if jargre could read properly he would know i was not poping at the other fancier who's ar$e he tried to lick ,

he should read and digest what was said instead of trying to jump in

 

This was a topic about my issues, not having a pop at eachother. As for your comment about him licking my a--, I dont think so mate. If you want to write about crap like that, then go to another topic and not mine.

[Guest]

Maybe so but we should all be seen as "united" and wind our necks in before tapping away on the keyboard. REMEMBER Joe public sees this and we are ALL being seen as the laughing stock.

[jock3]

if everyone stopped racing and training pigeons for 2 years

they would virtually all starve to death

 

ur right mate

[Guest]

 

This was a topic about my issues, not having a pop at eachother. As for your comment about him licking my a--, I dont think so mate. If you want to write about crap like that, then go to another topic and not mine.

 

Yep I agree 100%

[white logan]

 

This was a topic about my issues, not having a pop at eachother. As for your comment about him licking my a--, I dont think so mate. If you want to write about crap like that, then go to another topic and not mine.

 

i appologise for that comment as it has cuased offence to you and i also appologise to jargre , i should have explained a little better and been more tolerant with the point i was making .

 

[The Navigator]

 

i appologise for that comment as it has cuased offence to you and i also appologise to jargre , i should have explained a little better and been more tolerant with the point i was making .

 

 

No problem, thanks.

 

[Guest]

 

This was a topic about my issues, not having a pop at eachother. As for your comment about him licking my a--, I dont think so mate. If you want to write about crap like that, then go to another topic and not mine.

 

Sorry about this thread going off tangent Steve, was reading through angry glasses at the BOP's giving you grief posted in that vien.  As Bob, said, we really do need to be see to be singing fromt the same song sheet and that's how the hell do we deal with these BOP's.   > >

[edwards]

its not nice at all mate we were very lucky up to a couple of year ago but now the stress on young birds is a joke from hawks i would rate the sparrow hawk our worse enemy were we are groups of them mate not only can they not make a clean kill anything that gets away from it badly injured they return to see has the bird died or any sign of it after you have chased it off the number of falcons here in bray i mean is low but slowly growing sounds like an epidemic over there lads and to be honest goverment will never listen to us fanciers and if im not mistaking out of 54 medals of honur giving to animals in the war 33 were to our pigeons and yet there voice never heard.

[Runt3]

G'Day All

 

I lost 18 off the loft this year when the yb were 1st homing

and  more when i was tossing  15  so i did not race this year

I only started with 65 it is hard here i live in the bush

I get a hit a far bit, but i have a pipe and wood  ;D

[Guest ENDFLIGHT]

I WATCHED THE PERIGRINE TAKE ONE OF MY YOUNGSTERS OUT OF THE SKY BEFORE MY EYES AT 6 50 TONIGHT NOT A NICE SIGHT BUT SEEING THE EASTBOURNE RESULT IN OUR CLUB TONIGHT HAS SLIGHTLY EASED THE PAIN ;) ;) :) :) :)

[Frazer]

I fly out of morwenstow about a mile from the cliffs on the north cornwall coast lost four yb to the peregrine so took advice from a guy who lives a mile from me to put them on open hole been on it for 3 weeks and not lost any more is this some kind of answer do they get a bit more streetwise or am i just kidding myself and the next attacks just round the corner.

[Novice]

I fly out of morwenstow about a mile from the cliffs on the north cornwall coast lost four yb to the peregrine so took advice from a guy who lives a mile from me to put them on open hole been on it for 3 weeks and not lost any more is this some kind of answer do they get a bit more streetwise or am i just kidding myself and the next attacks just round the corner.

 

When I have mine on open hole I find that I have more attacks from the sparrowhawk. But Yes the birds are more streetwise.

 

 

[Guest stb]

my birds always on open hole all year round .  always do this as found when the birds were shut in a lot and let out at start of season they were not sharp and the sparr hen was picking them of every day for weeks.  They get more tuned into the warning noices from the wild birds and strike of before the sparr hen hits them.  with the peregrine they all dive in loft or under connifers in garden as they know the difference. sparrow hen attack they fly fast and high and get above it.  Buzzard they dont bat an eyelid and it lands on telephone poll at back of loft.  Kesteral they just look at it but dont bother to fly of.

[Guest Owen]

Now the umpteenth rant is over, what are we going to do? I suggest that we don't fall for the business of argueing amongst ourselves. Whatever we decide we must all sign up to it. You say that the Government will not take notice, you may be right, but the British Public have just given them a scare and they have more to come. So perhaps we should communicate with the Public as often as we can. There are some things we need to do to make sure that they actually understand how our sport works. But we can start there and build the momentum. I am sure that if we do this properly we may find that we will make the sport more popular and possibly gain more members. Now surely that is something to work for, is,nt it?

[Roland]

Of the 53 Dickin Medals awarded, 18 were presented to dogs, 3 to horses, 1 to a cat, and 31 to pigeons.

 

http://members.tripod.com/saso_loft/racers/dicken.html

 

[Guest stb]

still say the quickest way to wipe them out is dont feed them your doos.

 

2 years no racing and training  not much bops left.

 

during the war when there was very little movement of pigeons in the uk there numbers were decimated  and not all were shot or traped but loads starved.

 

we could do it again on a bigger scale as they are very dependant on our pigeons nowadays to exspand and multiply. starve them out they wont last long.  most pereg nest sites have 100,s of racing pigeon rings around them every year but this is well covered up bye the bop lovers as racing pigeons are there staple diet now  yours and mine.  They say they only take the sick and weak birds  ..bull sh** they take the best. would you eat road kill if you had

 

prime beef.

[Roland]

stb I have being saying the same for so long. Would give the fancier ample time to restock and build an over sized team. Yes a few times out to let them get aense of direction and home a couple of odd tosses and Roberts your mothers brother. The fancier as vast whole won't even dwell, let alone consider the idea though.

Yes of course it would work. Why? because when I first read about the idea in the BHW it was swapped all of a sudden will 'New unknown names berating and lying reasons why it wouldn't. Yes from the B.O.P / Hawk faternity. THEN you know you are cooking on gass.

like Pour on. The advertising saying how great it was (Imvertim) was for their birds, what wonderful stuff.... Not the 'Pour On one though, but the B.O.P ceratinly filled pages, forums etc. etc. stating this that and the other.... So yes 95% of the fancy believe it was useless. Still do.  Several others state differently and you KNOW when the B.O.P. come out the closets Bull **ting that they are worried.

But stb, being right is so frustrating, for it will never, mores the pity, ever happen.

[edwards]

well i was close i said 34 3 out i was mate i knew it was something along that lines of medals but back to stoping racing for two seasons it may sound like a good idea lads but just listen and hear this out birds of prey will kill almost any type of bird to live lads they are not fussy at all. my mate has 2 periguine falcons he uses for duck hunting,rabbits, and hares they have even killed phesant there was one occasion one hit a young lamb and injured its self so i put the question to him why the racers why do they hit them his answer was this when a falcon has fully matured they intelligence is equal between an 8 year and 12 year old child there very very smart the condition of the prey they strike is important no matter what it is meaning what will offer the protien and energy they need they will not strike a flock head on incase of injury to them selfs they will try to seperate an indiviual and then strike thats why racers climb every time there about they get tight to the hawk so he cant dive at them which he needs to do .he said periguine falcons will survie on anything down to a field mouse  along with sparrow hawks i asked if there was an answer and he said eagleowls are you only hope birds of prey avoid them like the plauge ps please dont shoot me down over this there not my words lads.