Save And Protect British Song Birds Society

[Guest numpty01]

we have done noting more than send off the petition to people that might have the same thoughts than our selves well to be honest i haven't send off any yet (but i will) more trying to look for different groups that may feel the same way about our problem i really cant see the problem in fighting this in many different ways  the petition mightn't have a big effect but some times these things can have a snowball effect hopefully this is one of them

you gave some valuble links thats good enough for me and the others

 

[just ask me]

you gave some valuble links thats good enough for me and the others

 

easier to be   helpful than to knock  

[just ask me]

still looking too  

[Guest chrisss]

when was the law repealed? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

[Roland]

1957. Was 1955 brought in for a 2 year period.

Now when was the Law of Protection granted in Goverment?

Further the laws that the RSPB use are different again.

I posted all this months ago.... same as this petetion etc.

This petetion has run for years and years. Every Country Fete and town centres.  Still it is rolling on.

I posted a copy of my last response from the Dawn chorus.

Then I see that I haven't signed the petetion?  :-/

[Guest numpty01]

1957. Was 1955 brought in for a 2 year period.

Now when was the Law of Protection granted in Goverment?

Further the laws that the RSPB use are different again.

I posted all this months ago.... same as this petetion etc.

This petetion has run for years and years. Every Country Fete and town centres.  Still it is rolling on.

I posted a copy of my last response from the Dawn chorus.

Then I see that I haven't signed the petetion?  :-/

you did not post this petition roland youers maybe plodding along but i have never come across it anywere at least its out on the net now thats all we asked

 

 

[Roland]

1957. Was 1955 brought in for a 2 year period.

Now when was the Law of Protection granted in Goverment?

Further the laws that the RSPB use are different again.

I posted all this months ago.... same as this petetion etc.

This petetion has run for years and years. Every Country Fete and town centres.  Still it is rolling on.

I posted a copy of my last response from the Dawn chorus.

Then I see that I haven't signed the petetion?  :-/

How many times must i sign the petetion? :-/

Does quickly seen duplicate signing help the cause, or only serves to discredit it!

 

To:  **********

 

Roland,

You are reflecting our own views about the RSPB and our charity receivesmasses of critical emails deploring the policies of RSPB. SongBird Survival has a long and honourable contact with the Racing PigeonAssociations - but we tend to argue our case based on a whole range ofpredators - not just raptors. The debate is hotting up in the media. ************************************

********************************** etc.

 

We were on BBC Breakfast Televisionrecently arguing with Mr Chris Packham. We are sponsoring serious researchat the University of Reading aimed at demonstrating the flawed policies ofthe RSPB and others.  We are sending you literature separately and please do keep in touch. Yours sincerely Keith McDougallPolicy Director

And of course much more.

Beside JUST how does one know who has and hasn't signed the petetion?

Seems likely that 'Voting etc' isn't in secret on this score then :-/

[Roland]

But I have no gripes or problems whatsoever who supports this. Many roads lead to rome, and hopefully one will soon be trodden and get there.

[Guest]

 

everyone's help is wanted but if keep finding holes in what everyone is doing and just keep it to this site arguing we could be here till this time next year

 

i do agree that if everyone joins together it would probably be better but u never know where these things lead

Finding holes is exactly what someone should be doing, don't you think that's the first thing the enemy are going to do as and when we present a case?   :-/  The key to any successful campaign is getting it right from the start that way you won't waste all that time only to find right at the death all the hard work put in was fruitless.   I've spent enough time on this matter so will honour the likes of Bob and OldYellow and stay out of the issue, I'm sure my input will be appreciated elsewhere.  

 

[pigeonpete]

Finding holes is exactly what someone should be doing, don't you think that's the first thing the enemy are going to do as and when we present a case?   :-/  The key to any successful campaign is getting it right from the start that way you won't waste all that time only to find right at the death all the hard work put in was fruitless.   I've spent enough time on this matter so will honour the likes of Bob and OldYellow and stay out of the issue, I'm sure my input will be appreciated elsewhere.  

 

We dont need enimies from the outside, they are looking in and seeing us doing the damage ourselvs jmo. PLEASE lets all read off the same him sheet for once. its tuff enough out there :-)

[just ask me]

Finding holes is exactly what someone should be doing, don't you think that's the first thing the enemy are going to do as and when we present a case?   :-/  The key to any successful campaign is getting it right from the start that way you won't waste all that time only to find right at the death all the hard work put in was fruitless.   I've spent enough time on this matter so will honour the likes of Bob and OldYellow and stay out of the issue, I'm sure my input will be appreciated elsewhere.  

 

its a simple petition noting else  and your last point well that your own decision I'm sure u would fit in some where

[Guest numpty01]

;D 8) ;D ;D ;D

[Roland]

numpty01 says and I quote '.... it leads to one wanting to control the rest as in ?? this way roland can carry on with his and we will carry on with ours that way theres two organisations working with similar views pob with pigeons and sobsb with all birds end result if successful pigeons gain along with bird life'

 

Now that is just plain and simple common sense. If any one elses merits, endeavours capsize the RSPB's strangle hold, bring to the fore a sensible and workable solution that acheives what we are all wanting and further in need of, let me assure you I will stand up and applaud from the highest roof tops. No two ways about that.

Personally I  couldn't give a rat's behind how it is acheived as ong as it is, and that's the truth.

P.s. and so it should be with each and every one of us!

[Guest numpty01]

and for once i agree with you if two organiseations push that is better than one our way may in some views be no good others will see the benifit as we do i agreed to assit you inanyway i can ?that stands but i along with others will proceed along the path we have taken

[Guest]

There are many, many people on here who have spent a lot more time organising, investigating and planning the cause than I have, and I for one do not wish to take any credit away from those people. My part in this is to help these people to the best of my ability, and will continue to do so. It has already been stated by those at the forefront of these campaigns, that NONE OF THEM WANT THE GLORY and that is why I have offered my help and support.

[just ask me]

numpty01 says and I quote '.... it leads to one wanting to control the rest as in ?? this way roland can carry on with his and we will carry on with ours that way theres two organisations working with similar views pob with pigeons and sobsb with all birds end result if successful pigeons gain along with bird life'

 

Now that is just plain and simple common sense. If any one elses merits, endeavours capsize the RSPB's strangle hold, bring to the fore a sensible and workable solution that acheives what we are all wanting and further in need of, let me assure you I will stand up and applaud from the highest roof tops. No two ways about that.

Personally I  couldn't give a rat's behind how it is acheived as ong as it is, and that's the truth.

P.s. and so it should be with each and every one of us!

 

well said postive thinking is what we need   couldent have put it better  my self  

[just ask me]

sent u pm another link that might be of use  

[ch pied]

Finding holes is exactly what someone should be doing, don't you think that's the first thing the enemy are going to do as and when we present a case?   :-/  The key to any successful campaign is getting it right from the start that way you won't waste all that time only to find right at the death all the hard work put in was fruitless.   I've spent enough time on this matter so will honour the likes of Bob and OldYellow and stay out of the issue, I'm sure my input will be appreciated elsewhere.  

yes the enemy are watching all this , and i would think they are having a good chuckle ,  if they find any hole's in this or any other campaign , they will drive a coach & horse's through it . you have forwarned them and even helped them by dividing your force , that will be the down fall of this campaign . IN THEIR EYE'S , your just a bunch of crazy pigeon fancier's that hate BOP . when thier PR boy's go into full swing they will be ruthless with no quarter given . as we know they are very good at operating in a clandistine manner , should we not adopt the same approche , then spring it on them. AN AIR TIGHT CAMPAIGN

 

 

[Roland]

sent u pm another link that might be of use  

 

Not intended for me I take it lol... if so, never received it.

[Guest numpty01]

yes the enemy are watching all this , and i would think they are having a good chuckle ,  if they find any hole's in this or any other campaign , they will drive a coach & horse's through it . you have forwarned them and even helped them by dividing your force , that will be the down fall of this campaign . IN THEIR EYE'S , your just a bunch of crazy pigeon fancier's that hate BOP . when thier PR boy's go into full swing they will be ruthless with no quarter given . as we know they are very good at operating in a clandistine manner , should we not adopt the same approche , then spring it on them. AN AIR TIGHT CAMPAIGN

 

yes they are watching and takeing note and wondering were it will go ??????lets see. can i just point out nonoe has devided their force as they are not part of eaither as to failure whats that if you dont try you dont succeed perhaps you could assit eaither of us by doing something in ireland like getting youer club fed to take note something is being done

 

 

[ch pied]

yes they are watching and takeing note and wondering were it will go ??????lets see. can i just point out nonoe has devided their force as they are not part of eaither as to failure whats that if you dont try you dont succeed perhaps you could assit eaither of us by doing something in ireland like getting youer club fed to take note something is being done

 

their is more being done here than on the mainland , you can be assured .

 

i havent had a percy nest within 5mls , for some 6ys , they just won't settle in my area , can you say the same

 

 

[Guest]

yes the enemy are watching all this , and i would think they are having a good chuckle ,  if they find any hole's in this or any other campaign , they will drive a coach & horse's through it . you have forwarned them and even helped them by dividing your force , that will be the down fall of this campaign . IN THEIR EYE'S , your just a bunch of crazy pigeon fancier's that hate BOP . when thier PR boy's go into full swing they will be ruthless with no quarter given . as we know they are very good at operating in a clandistine manner , should we not adopt the same approche , then spring it on them. AN AIR TIGHT CAMPAIGN

 

Best post on the entire thread Ch Pied, and I agree with you that any RSPB of this world are not over concerned with this campaign as it stands, that's for certain.  My honest wish for all this is that after the 'who can p*ss faster competiton is over' these parties can get to work together but not in the manner it has so far because that simply won't work.  

 

[gangster]

well as i see it  ch pied and jaGre have a very valid point !!! try reading  ch pieds post n let it sink in then  think again?? you might just see were he is coming from... 8) 8) 8)

[Guest]

I can see where ch pied is coming from Mick and he has a valid point. The trouble is there was no division until a certain negativity came along. As far as the vast majority are concerned we all have a common objective, primarily to make the public aware and get support. All Roads Lead to Rome mate

[Guest numpty01]

my point is at jagre not chreq pied im not stupied enough  not    to know the rspb will have a field day but if they do then it just provides more publicity for us and thats all that matters make peaple think  ;D ;D