Roland Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Let’s be truthful here. Here why do I get peeved off? Here is why I rise to these senseless and vindictive actions, posts by so - called fanciers. Yes by these persons against any endeavours to help our plight! Well when trying to get members for a committee I was in contact by very many of you. I took everything aboard what I thought was good and implemented it where possible and feasible. Much of course is still stored and able to be tapped into if and as when wanted or needed. One example here and oh so very true. One thing I’m not and that’s a two – face, nor do I lie… unless to the wife, and that’s called self – presentation. A certain member on our forum P.med me a few time and long story short over a period of days we actually spoke for some time late on a Tuesday night. First of was on about Barnsley where the peregrines are nesting on the ground etc. He wanted to help in any and every way he could zand was full of advice. He urged me to be very cautious. Stated over and over again, that what ever I did, or the P.O.B decided, to remain annominous was imperative at all costs and at all times. He told me of many experiences he’d had personally, and several of his friend’s, with the RSPB and of their’ dirty tricks. THESE ranged from police raids with the RSPB leading them. Loft raids where they went through the lofts with tooth and comb. How they fitted people up that even dared to stand up to them How they’d on more than one occasion actually raided him, but he wouldn’t allow them in to his premises unless he had his solicitor, representative, and witness’s present, which he claimed many wouldn’t realise that was the legal way forward. Therefore as such they never came back with warrents etc. etc. Further in informed me, that they couldn’t legally just turn up and inspect willy – nilly. He went on about how families were and had been followed. Loved ones intimidated and threatened. Warned me that the RSPB had a very nasty fringe that thought they were above the law, and the law was just for them! Further this gentleman assured me the list was endless and nasty, that at all costs, NEVER be deceived into thinking about letting anyone’s name being known, let alone become public. He cited court cases where genuine people had been fitted up with Peregrines / Hawks etc. B.O.P were found in Dust Bins and at loft locations. He has, he assured me, even Media / paper cuttings of the dirty trick antics. one where the judge had thrown out the RSPB claims in false prosecutions. Has other press cuttings of further dirty tricks the RSPB and their nasty fringe mob did and would do etc. etc. etc. Fortunately his wife put his dinner on the table and made him come of the phone to eat it. His parting words were ‘Trust no one and don’t ever let any one know who you are, because believe me they will make life hell for you, TRUST ME! Guessed who it was yet!? Well I listened and put it in bed alongside much other thoughts and aspects. I also felt that the proven track record of the fickleness of people, especially those you are trying to help. I knew certain members would be constantly spitting in to our tent. ESPECIALLY those rejected as committee members. Names coming to the fore yet? This one fancier offered birds – Shadows they were I believe, which I didn’t know about. Besides then, and as now the P.O.B wasn’t able to take any donations etc. money as an account hadn’t been set up. OF COURSE we know the importance of not only doing what’s right but seen to be doing so! This member, yes the one that was all for us, who bade us urgently never to reveal sauces or who's names needed to be protected at all costs, then started to pee in our tent! Guessed who Yet! Yes ‘WHITE LOGAN’ Yes the very one posting as such below- will copy and paste if needed. Indeed even from weeks back.. Is it any wonder now why he pees me and others off… ? Can you wonder in the least why he was a non-enmity regards being a committee member! Let alone a satellite to bounce ideas off even! Yes like I say a SAD case. Did he ever bother to read the first part of the reality article he flays into! One which obviously referred to him with other such like. the ‘Pee in the tent mob’. Obviously not! Yet keeps the senseless spouting of same dribble. Yes every post he fabricates has already been dealt with in that very first post! Just keeps slinging mud eh, some will stick syndrome. Obviously he- and others - have an ‘Agenda’ and it certainly isn’t in the interests of our pigeon fancier, nor the plight we all face with the B.O.P This is the man now deriding the P.O.B and stating crap like Secret Societies’, calling for their names to be made known! Why…. You tell me!
pigeonpete Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Think this seriously needs sorting out some other way, As in my opinion is not getting anyone anywhere fast, or indeed going totally backwards. And is doing pigeonbasics no good whatsoever. :X
THE FIFER Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Think this seriously needs sorting out some other way, As in my opinion is not getting anyone anywhere fast, or indeed going totally backwards. And is doing pigeonbasics no good whatsoever. :X yes making the site anything but interesting, and will start members keeping off,
Roland Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Posted August 17, 2009 Yes, is getting a bit too personal I'd agree. But then - in my oppinion is the unwarrented vendetta of tarnishing good members of the P.O.B who are a honest and good intensional body endeavouring to help, not only the 'Pigeon fanciers' but the wild birds as well. the insinuations, in fact down right untruths did I feel - rightly or wrongly I just had to reply to. The mere fact that it would be totally ignored should have been a part of my 'Mind set' as they have proved, if nothing else, their own aimless agenda to disrupt and pour scorn on these fine people regardless. Certainly not in the interests of the forum, and certainly not in any way shape or form for the betterment of our dying sport and it's Plight of the B.O.P. I hope this helps to clear my views and integrity. I want nothing for my self. Definately not fame, nor fortune. I've all the fame I can handle, and a little that is plenty is more than suplus.
BLACK W F Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Roland you know my views on the subject there aint no inbetween your either part of the solution or part of the problem this back stabbing and slagging people off has got to stop i for one do not want to know who is heading it who is on the committee ect but a secret is only a secret when your the only one who knows so how can it be a secret society just some guys $hit stiring nothing changes there what ever help i can give i will BUT I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ANY ONES IDENTITY WHAT I DONT KNOW I CANT SAY I HAVE FULL SUPPORT so if any others not happy then go and do there thing i will not bother them so why not go away and leave Roland and the committee alone and the rest of us for the good of our sport cheers Alan
ch pied Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Roland you know my views on the subject there aint no inbetween your either part of the solution or part of the problem this back stabbing and slagging people off has got to stop i for one do not want to know who is heading it who is on the committee ect but a secret is only a secret when your the only one who knows so how can it be a secret society just some guys $hit stiring nothing changes there what ever help i can give i will BUT I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ANY ONES IDENTITY WHAT I DONT KNOW I CANT SAY I HAVE FULL SUPPORT so if any others not happy then go and do there thing i will not bother them so why not go away and leave Roland and the committee alone and the rest of us for the good of our sport cheers Alani agree , on every point .
maverick Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 If these knockers put as much into helping the sport as they do knocking people who are trying to do something ALL OUR PROBLEMS WOULD BE OVER
Merlin Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 Got to agree 100% with last three posters,if you dont wish to support something,then dont.just stop boring readers with your negativity,when people attempt to tackle the issue of BOPs,which will soon be of blight proportions regarding our birds,I will back Roland or any others who try to make our Sport a wee bit safer,good for you Roland,carry on and ignore the spoilers
rick Posted August 17, 2009 Report Posted August 17, 2009 i agree with roland to it all soundslike playground stuff..
Roland Posted August 17, 2009 Author Report Posted August 17, 2009 Thanks gentlemen. I feel that my point has been well and truely made. Obviously some may wish to carry this mindless bitching for their own purposes and agenda. Let them get on with it. I myself wish to concentrate on more research. More probing worthwhile aspect and anything that can, or will enhance any progress in this plight of ours. Further I wish to appolige for my silly and disrespectful behavior on this site to all members especially the Mods, and others that like me, just want what is best regardless how attained. But I stand by every word. Have a clear conscience and know I am with others working for the good of the majority and worthwhile genuine fanciers. The other don't deserve a mention, and as such I won't even recognised their existance. Thanks again for your support of the truth.
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