westy Posted November 2, 2006 Report Posted November 2, 2006 what corn do you give your racers over the winter period. i have myne on high protien mix
stevebelbin Posted November 2, 2006 Report Posted November 2, 2006 From now till pairing up I feed 50% Barley and 50% V-Laga Best All-round. Then 2 weeks before pairing put them on 50% best all-round and 50% breeding mix, with ferti-oil mixed on to it. 2-3 weeks b4 pairing treat for worms with Moxidectin. Then when they are sitting eggs treat them for canker and feed the barley mix again (to keep the weight off), and a few days b4 the eggs hatch, put them on full breeding mix + a few human consumption peanuts (crush the peanuts and microwave them for 15 seconds to kill any fungi) and I mix protein powder to the corn. Whilst they are feeding they get Gemphepax + Protein powder on the corn and Baby milk powder mixed into the water every day.
rockinrick Posted November 2, 2006 Report Posted November 2, 2006 what corn do you give your racers over the winter period. i have myne on high protien mix snap m8 i have mine on a nice winter mix now and extra drinker placed in loft with warm water added each day ;D
schouwman71 Posted November 2, 2006 Report Posted November 2, 2006 gerry plus and moulting mix mixed together,also add G10 pellets and hormoform.Les
Beanz Posted November 2, 2006 Report Posted November 2, 2006 What ever is left over from racing then high protien mix until moulted and then any good mix but just enough to keep the weight right
Guest Paulo Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 at the minute Bucktons economy high protein into which I mix extra beans. Then as the bucktons run out gradually increase the beans percentage until the birds are on just beans.
birdman55678 Posted November 3, 2006 Report Posted November 3, 2006 Quoted from westy what corn do you give your racers over the winter period. i have myne on high protien mix No Corn here.. Barley, with a little red wheat and salflower
andy Posted November 30, 2006 Report Posted November 30, 2006 I FEED VERSE-LAGA MOULTING PLUS WITH 10% BEANS AND 25% BARLEY
Guest shadow Posted November 30, 2006 Report Posted November 30, 2006 Beans and barley until 2weeks before pairing this way you don't get to much fat on the hens even if kept in due to bad weather
blackjack Posted December 3, 2006 Report Posted December 3, 2006 beans,wheat and barley mixed according to the weather.
Chatrace Posted December 3, 2006 Report Posted December 3, 2006 16% protien Turkey pellets, shelled corn, Black oil Sunflower seeds 1/3 each
MsPigeon Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Hi Chatrace, Interesting that you use turkey pellets as I was looking over the labels on all the poultry pellets this year. I didn't get my Purina pellets ordered in time. I finally decided on the layer pellets though, as they didn't contain animal byproducts or medication which the turkey did. Why did you chose turkey? Carol
Guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 We use Fanciers Choice Carol, and find them very good
Tim.Farr Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 I just started mixing Iam's Smart Puppy and rabbit pellets into my birds 16 percent mix. Going to pair them up today I think.
birdman55678 Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Has anyone tried calf manna. I have used it before but its been a long time ago. Ed
MsPigeon Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Yes Ed, I have used Calf Manna, they call it Manna Pro now. But I was seeing alot of blue breasts on my racers, but it is probably fine for the breeders and babies. I just been reading alot in different books and articles lately that between 14-16% is plenty of protien for pigeons. Anyhow, just given it a try. And thanks again Linda for the name of that pigeon pellet but I wanted to go with something I can get were we buy all our farm feed. I do really like the pigeon feeds from Tradewinds but I don't always get up to Tacoma, especially in the winter. Carol
Tim.Farr Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Well within minutes of putting the birds in the individuals and then together in the loft section most of them were paired up. Probably mostly due to the nice weather we have going right now. I have one cock though who isn't interested in his hen at all, he did this to me last year and wouldn't pair up till I just tossed him in a section with some other pairs/extra hens. I really want him to pair with this hen I have him in with now so I'll hope they pair up in the next few days. On a side note, do you think there's such thing as too much protein when it comes to breeding/weaning youngsters? I know there is in racing but in breeding I'd think it wouldn't do much harm.
birdman55678 Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Tim. The way I understand it is that all the protein a pigeon can or will absorb is 17%, if you feed 24%l protein all the birds retain from it is 17% max. So I guess to answer your question I would say NO.. Also try putting your stubborn cock in a mating cage where he can see the hen and no other pigeons, something like a large breeder box with a wire screen seperating the cock from the hen you want mated up with, leave them that way until you see them beaking between the wire then just put them together. This will work unless he has been mated with another hen in the loft.. These are my thoughts anyway. Ed
Tim.Farr Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Wow didn't know 17 percent was the max. In that case I think I'll lower the amount of Iam's I'm adding in. It's about 28 percent protein but has so much good stuff in it for the birds. The rabbit pellets are about 17 percent protein but much lower fat content and much higher in fiber. That's a good idea Ed. If I don't see they're paired up in the morning I'll separate him by himself for a day and then show him the hen without any other birds around.
Roland Posted December 7, 2006 Report Posted December 7, 2006 Tim too much protien is bad for any pigeon ... or us! If you ever get toxin poison in their blood through too much protien - you will certain be out for a season at least! And it is in a different concept than the Toxin that is easily cleared when stressed from a had race tec. JMO
MsPigeon Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 I agree Roland, too much protein is hard on their organs. Carol
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