Top Gear 2010

[budgie]

With the New Year fast approaching how many of us could breed and race without giving any medication whatsoever to get them into Top Gear.

[Guest BRYANBROCK]

With the New Year fast approaching how many of us could breed and race without giving any medication whatsoever to get them into Top Gear.

 

not many i bet  you never know tho  :-/  :-/  :-/

[Taylorsloft]

primalac  

[dwh]

don't think there is there anybody  

[Guest BRYANBROCK]

don't think there is there anybody  

 

there will be one that for sure it like the racing you never lose them all

one always turns up sometime  :-/  :-/

[dwh]

 

there will be one that for sure it like the racing you never lose them all

one always turns up sometime  :-/  :-/

 

the birds must have some constitution if all these conditions are so debilitating :-/

[Guest BRYANBROCK]

i agree with you but nowadays i think that there far too much disease out there

and the birds must be treated it not like years ago me personally did not treat for anything

only lice sprayed loft twice a year before and after racing

but the birds of today have been reared with medication parents. grand . great great .e.t.c.

and if i could race my birds with out meds i would one of my freinds once told me

that if your birds need medication you loft not up to scratch and any bird that ill to be destroyed you can always breed more

i also think that we buy in birds from other fanciers that are carriers and they may look good on the outside but not that great inside i have had this in the past so now if i buy in anything it treated for everthing before i even consider breeding or racing

[dwh]

i agree with you but nowadays i think that there far too much disease out there

and the birds must be treated it not like years ago me personally did not treat for anything

only lice sprayed loft twice a year before and after racing

but the birds of today have been reared with medication parents. grand . great great .e.t.c.

and if i could race my birds with out meds i would one of my freinds once told me

that if your birds need medication you loft not up to scratch and any bird that ill to be destroyed you can always breed more

i also think that we buy in birds from other fanciers that are carriers and they may look good on the outside but not that great inside i have had this in the past so now if i buy in anything it treated for everthing before i even consider breeding or racing

 

must admit our right but problems sometimes don't lie with your set up we prepare to the best of our abilities sometimes we get it spot on but you can't legislate for outside factors arising in the basket ,1it only takes 1 bird to be a carrier and the whole basket is infected

the condition of other

[Guest BRYANBROCK]

agreed but if medicated it reduces the risk tenfold     

[ritchie1]

birds been treated for everything now will pair them up in three weeks

[dwh]

birds been treated for everything now will pair them up in three weeks

 

same here all treated b4 pairing just starting to lay will treat 4 canker wen all down on eggs

[robbiedoo.]

well guys my birds wont get any treatment until may cant understand why people treat in the blind . i know a lot fanceirs canker and treat for paratiphoid before pairing but i for one dont do either .

[BLACK W F]

WELL EACH TO THEIR OWN ROBBIE BUT I WOULD ALWAYS TREAT BEFORE PAIRING

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

well ive treated for every thing this year as ive spent loads on new stock pigeons and i would be gutted if they went ill just for the sake of me trying to save a few quid by not treating

[robbiedoo.]

alan i,m not getting into a debate but why treat if they dont need it . i think a lot of fanceirs think oh he dose it so i will do it aswell and i just cant understand why .

[Guest strapper]

there is a saying ..go with the times or get left behind!

 

diseases of today are blamed on todays fanciers...but deseases develope over many years.

it is said that many years a go we wouldnt have had half whats around today....but take a look in the mirror because the fanciers of yesteryear may have been unknowingly responsible for diseases today.

when new diseases appear some fanciers look for a natural solution...unknowingly making the desease more widespread instead of medications to eradicate it.

todays deseases need todays medications...albiet some meds that was developed years ago.

 

there will be always the older fanciers blaming problems with fanciers of today ,that will never change.

but i feel fanciers of today on the whole are more responsible when it comes down to illneses.

some though instead of spending under a tenner to have piece of mind with droppings tested they will ,lay all odds they can cure it..with umteen items that must kick the birds digestive system about.

[BLACK W F]

ROBBIE I ALWAYS TREAT FOR CANKER COXI WORMS AND JAB  IF THERES ANY THING WRONG WITH THEM I WILL TEST  BUT IF ALL MY TEAM SPOT ON AND ONE GOES BACK ITS TREATED 1 WAY ONLY

[robbiedoo.]

why dont you test before you treat .

[BLACK W F]

WHY DO THAT I CAN SEE IF THEY OFF COLOUR JUST A PRECAUTION

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

thing with droppings testing is you can only send a few droppings or swap samples off . say the one you send come back clear still dosent mean every thing is clear in your loft only way to be sure is to send every dropping from every bird off and that would cost a fortune lol

[BLACK W F]

be a fair old heep of crap aswell  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

lol true cost you a fortune just to post it all

[walterbmasson]

 

 

BLACK W/F I AM THE SAME JAN ALL BIRDS TREATED FOR CANKER COCCI AND WORMS VITIMINS IN BETWEEN I SEE A LOT OF POSTS ABOUT TREATING FOR CANKER WHEN DOWN ON EGGS WHY I DONT KNOW LEAVE NOTHING TO CHANCE BEFORE PAIRING BUT EVERY BODY TO THERE OWN THING

[BLACK W F]

walter i have done the same for many a year the old trusted and tested way  

[Guest cloudview]

im not one of the routine treatment  brigade , and i do alright when it matters,

this year tho there was a problem ,i could,nt put my finger on it the birds looked imacculate the droppings were nigh on perfectthey exercised well at home , but come race day they were off the pace , this did,nt bother me to much inland , i dont expect to or try to keep up with the sprint men . but as the longer races came they went worse , was,nt losing hardly any

  to cut a long story short i had them tested , took birds with me and asample from each section in the loft , i was a bit dismayed but glad at the same time  , no cocci no worms no canker , no fungal , all this without any treatments .

the problem turned out to be  slime in nasel passages, sorted that , 2 weeks later 2 good birds in nfc saintes race

so do birds build up natural imm unity  or once you start treating have you then to keep doing it